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"Toyota" brand oil?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Nick13, May 13, 2018.

  1. May 13, 2018 at 3:56 PM
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    Nick13

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    I know toyota used to use mobil oil and gas now switched to their own branded bottle. Anyone have a clue who's oil is actually in the bottle. I've used 020 Mobil and Just did a change with the Toyota stuff, let me tell u there is a difference. Smells different, has a slightly darker color, and even looks thicker. Yes, I used the same viscosity.
    Weekly oil thread:deadhorse:
     
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  2. May 13, 2018 at 3:59 PM
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    LS14ME2

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    I have heard the Toyota 0-20 and their own branded oil in general is very good.
     
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    diabetiktaco

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    Toyota uses Mobil gas you say?
     
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    My dealer used Mobil 1 0w20 when they did my 2 free ones, that was sometime last year though. Didnt know they changed but I'll continue buying Mobil 1 so I dont have to give Toyota more of my money.
     
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    No idea and it doesn not really matter who blended it for them, because it is unique to Toyota specs. That means the additive package is different than what you can get from Mobil1 or Pennzoil etc.
     
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    Almost all of the the OA reports from BITOG indicates Toyota 0W20 is Mobil 1, one of the main reason is very little moly in the current oil, again pointing to M1 along with oil analysis.

    Any modern oil will go 5-7k and synthetics to 10-15k.

    I’m using Penzoil Ult Plat 0W20 during breakin and Redline 0W30 afterwards (yes a 30 wt like the rest of the world uses)

    Most people forget Redline is one of the only (maybe the only along with Motul) Group V poly ester top of the line oils on the market, hence the $15+ per qt price. That’s another reason why I use Redline gear oil and MTL exclusively.

    Haven’t done the sniff test though.
     
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    I used Toyota brand for my first oil change at 3k. And will still use it for the rest of my time as long as it’s reasonably priced.
     
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    dYL0n

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    So you don’t use 0w20 like Toyota says to use?
     
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    I use 30 and and 40wts in all my GR engines when appropriate. Just like Toyota says .
     
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    Just like the filters, brake pads, etc etc.
     
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    I’m using 0W20 for awhile until break in (60k miles) and the power train warranty is done. No need to give Toyota a reason to void any warranty work.

    Then I’ll use Redline 0W30.


     
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    My toyota dealer changed my oil with M1 0w40. Not that paranoid, neither were they.
     
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    I use mobil one annual protection. Have about 15,000 oci
     
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    For what it's worth, Toyota has had their own branded oils for decades, and 0W20 in bottles since 2006 (from what I can recall). It's not new.

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    It comes from the big drum out back of the dealerships. 0W20 lasts longer than 10K so they save it, bottle it, and sell it! Why do you think its darkero_O

    Why?:notsure:

    That 0W30 won't protect your engine properly. Tolerances are too tight.:popcorn:
     
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    Toyota is actually OK with viscosities as thick as 15W-40 for both the 4 cyl and V6 aust.jpg
     
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    It's too thick you'll blow up your engine!
     
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    You're right - the Toyota brand synthetic oil is unique. Even the factory fill break-in oil is unique. Below is some insider information about Toyota's factory fill oil as of 2008 and when to change it (not for at least 500-1000 miles). This insider information was provided by a Nippon Oil sales rep on another Toyota forum back in 2008 who wrote:
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    "Just FYI, the factory fill 0W-20 for the 07+ Tundra are fully synthetic. A small portion of the 0W-20 is made by Mobil while the rest are made by Nippon Oil (whom I work for)."

    "Toyota doesn't require synthetic oil for subsequent changes I believe, but it definitely comes with it from the factory. In fact, quite a few Toyotas come with our 0W-20 from the factory.

    "We don't make the 0W-20 provided to Toyota available for sale to other car companies. It probably is a formulation licensed to Toyota and thus only they have the rights to it."

    "This is pretty common. For example, the new GTR coming from Nissan uses exclusively a gear oil our company created for them. But it is only sold to Nissan and no one else, so you will not find that product in the product section of our Nippon oil website."

    "Previously manufacturers did not recommend breaking in new vehicles with full synthetic oil due to how smooth it is that it will not property break in the motor. But the 0W-20 full synthetic provided to Toyota at factory fill is a special formula created for Toyota, so it will allow proper break in."

    "Yes, I do work for Nippon as mentioned previously. You don't have to believe me, just take it as someone's opinion if you don't trust who I am. Not ALL of a car manufacturer's oil comes from one company alone. However, all the 0W-20 coming from the factory as well as the red bottle genuine oil are produced by either Nippon Oil or Mobil. They are produced for Toyota, so it's a Toyota product, not a Nippon Oil branded or Mobil branded product. You will find a Mobil 1 (Mobil brand) 0W-20 as well as our own ENEOS 0W-20 (Nippon brand). You are right though, different Toyota manufacturing plants are supplied by different oil companies. I believe we supply a majority of the plants except the one in South Carolina (not 100% sure on locaton). That one is Mobil."

    If you JUST purchased a new Tundra, you probably shouldn't change out the factory 0W-20 for ENEOS 0W-20 for at least 500-1000 miles. The reason being our ENEOS 0W-20 is of higher grade and is extremely smooth, so it will be difficult to break in the motor properly."
     

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