Tacoma diesel?

They're developing new CVT for tractor applications so that will push it. The other thing with diesels not going to be top priority is that industries that can justify diesels more than anyone are moving towards hybrids and electrical. France John Deere has a prototype electric tractor. There is already ADTs [Articulated Dump Trucks] that have generagors that make them similar to hybrids.

 

How are the non-nissan CVT's?

When I ever I hear CVT, I think Nissan and then I think of steel belts breaking at 60-100k.

 

When Tesla first came out with the little electric roadster it had some sort of manual transmission

 

The CVT in the Prius is extremely dependable - wife’s car is a little high mpg (low speed) beast. Heard good things about the Subarus too, but that’s probably because they’re Toyota CVTs.

 

My wife’s 2010 Murano was pretty nice had it for 6 years it had 96k on it when we traded it in was always smooth. Some lady in my town bought it and it’s still going strong last time I talked to her it had 130k and still no problems.

 

I thought Subaru was having CVT issues, kinda remember seeing something about a lawsuit last summer or fall on one of the business channels.

 

I've got a lot of eggs in the Powerball basket Saturday, when it pays off I'll swap the Land Cruiser V8tt diesel into my Tacoma and make it rain... acid rain.. from all the sweet ass black smoke

 

At least you have a chance lol. No lotto here

 

I'm dumb, I somehow was calculating 50 miles per gallon of DEF. I guess I have had a few too many whiskeys

 

Honda insight? It could be done.... maybe your onto something ....

 

I put 2.5 gallons of def in my Cummins every 5000 miles.

The cost of it is inconsequential.

 

If we ever got a Hilux diesel in the States it would be encumbered with SCR and EGR. It would be an apples to oranges comparison with the platform
produced in most other markets.

The maintenance and costs of these added emissions systems outweighs the benefits.

If said armies and militias had to deal with CARB, they’d buy gassers.

 

Catch up

 

Electric trucks, when they arrive, will put what we drive now to shame. Not because of the environment, but due to the characteristics of the electric motor. Maximum torque at minimum speed, no lag.

When was the last time you saw a locomotive with an automatic transmission? Even diesel locomotives convert their output to electric for the benefits of electric propulsion. The various early diesel locomotive that experimented with hydraulic transmissions and direct coupling were all failures.

When you hit the trails in your electric truck it’s gonna be insane.......capability way beyond what we have now with internal combustion, with more reliability, less moving parts, less noise, simpler design, better center of gravity, better control of speed and power, higher torque, and the ability to drive in deeper water without hydro-locking. I’m looking forward to it. Gas and deisel trucks suck equally for different reasons. Bring on the electric Tacoma.

 

id be pretty impressed if they actually dropped a diesel in there. but it just doesnt ever seem like something like that would happen for the US.

 

CRZ and Insight if I am not mistaken

 

I for one will welcome our electric vehicle overlords.

The problem is range and will always be range. Right now I can go +/-300 miles on a tank on the highway but significantly less involving low range. When it's empty it takes 10 minutes to get another 300 miles.

The reason I want diesel is that 300 miles goes to +/-425 miles on a tank of fuel (this using what a similar sized diesel Hilux apparently gets, 25 MPG) and it does not go down nearly as much in low range. Still only takes 10 minutes to get another 425 miles.

Electric truck would, I agree, be awesome on trails. They are great in the city, too. Indifferent on the highway, just needs to hold speed, have overtaking power maybe. Neither a negative or positive basically, though. The problem is even if you can get 300 miles from one you need a power source that uses gasoline or diesel otherwise you're waiting 24 or 48 hours to go another 300 miles.

So for a cross country trip not to take 2 weeks you need an onboard power source running a high energy content primary fuel, for which diesel is ideal. That's the critical part of locomotives, they are diesel-electric, each system doing what it does best. Electric propulsion, diesel power source.

 

I have to disagree with the driving deeper in water part, they would most likely put the batteries under the floor boards and I would be nervous going any higher than that.

 

They’ll never do it, they don’t want to deal with the regulations and extra fees to do it. Maybe if the Tacoma stops selling so well they’d have to do it, but doubt that’s gonna happen any time soon

 

The swappable battery pack is going to be the solution. Like cordless tools. You’ll pull your truck into a charging “station” and the whole battery will be changed for a new fully charged one in 30 seconds and away you go. You won’t own the battery, and they will be standardized just like gasoline is. Your truck might take two or three batteries, while your car might take only one.