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Tacoma diesel?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Seanb600, May 18, 2018.

  1. May 19, 2018 at 5:18 PM
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    Someone should just put a 4BT into his taco. That might be one of the top Diesel engines readily available in America.
     
  2. May 19, 2018 at 5:22 PM
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    Just drop the new Cummins 2.8l 4cyl crate motor in it.
    https://cumminsengines.com/repower.aspx
     
  3. May 19, 2018 at 5:25 PM
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    Why did you get rid of the Ford? Just curious. That truck sounds like it should've been kept.
     
  5. May 19, 2018 at 5:26 PM
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    Sadly no, it comes with the ecm and throttle pedal though.
     
  6. May 19, 2018 at 5:39 PM
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    Some tall tales going on there!
     
  7. May 19, 2018 at 5:47 PM
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    Can attest to power, torque, and mileage. Worked on two different 7.3's that were capable of this, both 6 speed manuals. This is one of my favorite automotive diesel engines made.
     
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    Power and Torque yes....annnd 22 mpg with 37's? yeah I am not buying that. We have a couple old guys in our dirt bike club that have 7.3's...15-17 mpg, stock and no lift. And they really drive like old men.
     
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    Definitely not on larger tires, I left that out my bad. Are the old guys manuals or automatic? The auto's back then were not the best.
     
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    Good question. I think the “stations” would have to more centralized, and the batteries smaller. I think ultimately having the battery as a permanent built-in part of the electric car doesn’t make a whole lot of sense if you can’t drive the car when it’s charging.

    I am not ancient, but am old enough to remember when the 1st cordless drills all had integral batteries. When the crew I was working with got the first ones with swappable battery packs we were very happy to not have to wait to keep working. I believe the same thing will happen with cars, if the various auto makers agree on a basic building-block battery size and connection arrangement that allows it to be easily swapped.
     
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    It would be easy to maintain that capability. Because you have a swappable battery doesn’t mean you can’t charge the thing at home.

    Of course I’m mostly speculating, but neither you nor I can guess the way it’s going to go with regards to electric vehicles, but I think it is clear the days of the internal combustion engine are numbered. They’re already deleting gas stations in city centers while adding charging stations all over the place. It’s a drop in the bucket now, but once the California solar building code takes hold requiring all new homes to have solar roofs, you’ll be a fool not to have an cheap electric car that you get to drive around for free.

    We’ll see.......maybe sooner than later.
     
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    It is one thing storing 1000's of gallons of liquid fuel, that you can suck out of the ground using pumps. Quite another having to move around 500-1000 battery packs on a daily basis.

    And what happens when the battery tech changes?

    Great idea, but is it feasible?

    It has been 25-30 years since I worked construction...I vaguely remember if the cordless drill batteries were interchangeable between brands. We only used Makita and Milwaukee...don't think they were. But it has been so long...who knows.


    I don't know. Yeah we all were sitting around the camp fire one night...and asking "So...all these guys claiming getting over 20 mpg out of their diesels...is it it true?"

    "Ahhh, yeah...those guys are full of shit. We take it it easy and drive the speed limit...sometimes under to find that happy rpm...get nowhere near that. Pulling a TT is more like 10-11."

    These guys aren't dumb either, engineers at the local death merchant. (Raytheon)
     
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    You can get 22 mpg in the 7.3 with a tune and a manual. I drove one for a summer and got that and put on at least 10k miles. People can say anyone is full of shit. I'm an engineer as well who designs diesel engines specifically. It is possible.
     
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    With a lift on 37's pulling a 4000 lbs trailer, drag racing Mustangs??? ;) :D
     
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    Not with large tires or with a trailer, but I wouldn't be surprised what it could do racing a mustang
     
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    Seems like the only guys getting over 20 mpg, are 2WD no load, driving 65 and under on long flat runs.

    Oh yeah, I can definitely see it roasting mustangs, one of them did a hopped up 5.9 Cummins swap in his F350...that thing flat out hauls the mail. Fuel consumption in the teens when empty. 6" lift on 37's.
     
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    Um, I'm an engineer. Unless you cut a shitload of weight and ran some skinny street tires and drove really slow you didn't. Diesels have the same laws of physics to contend with as gas engines. Weight, rolling resistance and drag. Diesels, like gas engines, are still not real efficient.
    A diesel's biggest advantage is torque. That's it. If your truck was stock, unloaded and you drove slow on interstate you got 20 mpg maybe, unless you used magic. Around town you got a best of 14-16.
     
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    Diesel engines get better mileage than their counterpart gas engines. Torque is not the only benefit. If torque was the only benefit why are so many generators ran on diesel? Diesel is more expensive both as a fuel and as an initial input cost. If gas is just as efficient asdiesel why pay the extra? I also said it wasn't stock it was tuned, we had the computer program to go in a mess with each variable we wanted to. It wasn't a race truck by any stretch of the imagination, but to say that 20 mpg isn't possible in it is a lie
     
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    I know the rules. Diesels are a bit more efficient than gas engines. The real difference is diesel fuel has about 15% more energy per gallon.
    Here's what is impossible unless you break some laws of physics:
    No engine, gas or diesel, is going to develop more power more torque and more efficiency (mpg in this case) at the same time. Don't care what tune you used. You can get more torque, which equates to more hp at the same rpm. OR you can be more efficient by dropping torque and rpm, or dropping weight and drag.
    Unless you use some "gimmick" ( cylinder deactivation, stop start, etc) then an engine is an engine and they follow one simple formula.
    HP=(T*RPM)/5252
    That's it.
     
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