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Alignment Needed?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Ole No. 1, Jun 8, 2018.

  1. Jun 8, 2018 at 6:40 AM
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    Ole No. 1

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    Morning,
    I have a 2018 AC Tacoma Sport w/ stock wheels and tires. I'm installing new 4 runner trail edition wheels and Cooper Discoverer AT3 tires tonight. I'm going with a slightly taller tire (265/65/17 to 265/70/17) to fill out the wheel wells.

    Stated offset on stock wheels is +30... new wheels is +15 so I'll be .59" farther out.

    My question is will I need an alignment to make sure everything is dialed in to factory spec? I obviously don't want any weird wear on the tires but I also don't want to pay for an alignment if not needed. I'm getting the tires through Discount Tire but apparently this location doesn't do alignments so they wouldn't advise. They just said I should have it checked.

    Thoughts? Thanks!
     
  2. Jun 8, 2018 at 6:42 AM
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    don't think you will need an alignment since you are not changing factory specs. all you are doing is installing rims & tires, you are not changing the suspension are you?
     
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  3. Jun 8, 2018 at 6:44 AM
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    No changes to the suspension. All factory.
     
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    I am wondering this as well, I am installing some 265/75/16 wildpeaks to my factory rims next week. I'm not changing my suspension at all. Do I need an alignment? Or am I good with mounting and balance?
     
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    Wheels / tires don't affect alignment.

    Alignment affects them.

    An alignment can be done with no wheels on the vehicle.

    Having an alignment done on a new vehicle can be worthwhile, especially if you prefer a precision alignment with custom numbers, as you really dont know what it rolled off the truck with.

    So you wont hurt a thing having an alignment done (by someone with skill on an accurate machine), but you dont have to have it because of getting new shoes.
     
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    That won't change any angles, but if I were sinking a substantial amount of cash into new tires, I would probably at least have the alignment checked.
     
  7. Jun 8, 2018 at 7:58 AM
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    Changing tire size changes the resting position of suspension, and changes geometry. You do need an alignment.

    I changed nothing on my truck but got bigger tires, and the alignment was way off.
     
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    Changing wheels and tires doesnt necessarily mean you need an alignment, however issues can be amplified by doing so. Going to a lower offset wheel will change the scrub radius i believe

    larger tire and pushing the wheel out further could / will cause issues with cab and firewall mount locations when cycling through ROM. While it might not be needed, you might want additional caster to mitigate those issues.
     
  9. Jun 8, 2018 at 8:26 AM
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    I got my Wildpeaks in the same size just this week, I opted for the alignment both for peace of mind and in case of tire warranty issues where they claim you didn't take "proper care" when installing.
     
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    Anytime you change tires on a vehicle... an alignment should be done. Why? because the tires are the only part of the vehicle that are in contact with the road.
     
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    10-4. Thanks for the feedback. I'll see if I can find a reputable shop to do a free "check" and see what they say.
     
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    Look up lifetime alignments. They usually cost about 50% more than a one time alignment, and you can literally do one whenever you want for free
     
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    I wouldnt do anything. Shop is likely to mess it up. Just leave it be.
     
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    New wheels and tires. Cooper Discoverer AT3s are quieter than the stock Toyos.

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    Digging those wheels on the blue. Good looking truck OP
     
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    Thanks man! Digging the wheels. The stock TRD Sport wheels had to go.
     
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    Got my wheels and tires put on Friday night. HUUUUGE improvement in looks over the stock TRD Sport wheels IMO. Two people in less than 12 hours complimented the wheels. Anyway, I had the alignment checked on Saturday at a local Firestone who I've dealt with many times over the years and they have always done good work. No adjustments were required. All within spec. Also, as I said in a previous post, the Cooper Discoverer AT3 tires are quieter than the stock Toyo's and the thicker tread and taller sidewall have muted some of the harshness of the TRD Sport suspension which is a definite plus.

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    Never got an alignment on a single vehicle after putting tires and rims on. You are not changing the suspension or altering it, so I don’t know who ever said you need an alignment? So what if you put the exact same tires on, you should get an alignment, not true and most people don’t do it..
     
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    Same tires, same wheel. no. the point of contact for the wheel and its range of motion dont changes there, but go to a plus size and thats a slightly different situation.

    lots of factors involved. width, offset, factory alignment should all be taken into consideration. Wider, taller tires on a lower offset wheel changes enough geometry to require additional caster, additional caster would ideally include camber changes.
     
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