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Discussion in 'Towing' started by nscrfrk, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. Aug 4, 2018 at 6:04 PM
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    Hey Bill...just to be sure...where would the cooler be located at exactly and what does it look like. Thanks...Mike
     
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    Oh there will be some mods all right
    Another way to tell if you have the tow package is if your fan has pink on it.

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    Looks like a small radiator in front of the condenser in front of the actual radiator

    You should be able to follow the connected lines to the transmission

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    Ok...just one more thing. This is some of the info from the spec sheet... Thanks again:thumbsup:




    Mechanical & Performance

    4.0L DOHC 24V V6 VVT-i 236HP Engine 5-Speed ECT-i Automatic Transmission 4WDemand: Part-Time 4x4 Sys w/ 2-speed Electronically Controlled Transfer Case Automatic Limited-Slip Differential Coil-Spring Double Wishbone Front Susp Rear Leaf Spring Susp with Staggered Outboard-Mounted Gas Shock Absorbers Var-Assist Power Rack-&-Pinion Steering Power-Assisted Fr Disc/Rr Drum Brakes 16" Styld Steel Wheels, P245/75R16 Tires

    • AL 16" Alloy Wheels w/ P245/75R16 Tires
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    • EE Entune Premium Audio with Navigation and App Suite
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    • FE 50 State Emissions
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    • SL SR5 Extra Value Package
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    • TO V6 Tow Package
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  5. Aug 5, 2018 at 5:37 AM
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    Well at the risk of being a PIA I'm still not finding exactly what I am looking for...even searched the towing bible and several web sites. So, with the info I am providing here, exactly how much can I tow?...

    *Vehicle has the towing package (tranny cooler, etc.)
    *GVWR- 5500#
    *GAWR- (frt) 2775# (rr) 3110#
    *Curb weight ( according to CarMax)- 4030#

    Everything that I have researched says I can tow anywhere from 3200 to 6400#...quite the range.

    I am looking at a double-axle 21' travel trailer weighing about 3200#

    With that said...should I be good to go...and should I consider installing trailer brakes and air bags?

    Thanks again fellas for your input. Very much appreciated!
     
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  6. Aug 5, 2018 at 5:47 AM
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    Definetly trailer brake controller .Your travel trailer most likely has brakes . Is there some kind of switch on the dash for towing ? IDK because I added my tow package . You could always get an Ultra Gauge to monitor transmission temps among other things too! Is your rear suspension stock? You could go with an add a leaf or Timbren Suspension Enhancement System bumpstops . Or both . Once you tow that trailer for the first time you will know how it handles and can figure out what you want to do .
    And you could do air bags like you said !
     
  7. Aug 5, 2018 at 5:50 AM
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    What exactly is the SR 5 extra value package? Mine is SR5 package #2 .
    :notsure:
     
  8. Aug 5, 2018 at 5:59 AM
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    Not sure Bill...wondering that myself.
     
  9. Aug 5, 2018 at 6:06 AM
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    What kind of wheels are on it . Post up some pictures . I’m looking at the specs now and I don’t see anything that says Extra value package just convenience package for SR5
     
  10. Aug 5, 2018 at 6:06 AM
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    There is no switch under the dash and suspension appears to be stock...4 leafs each side and looks like factory shocks as well
     
  11. Aug 5, 2018 at 6:09 AM
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    If it has the tow package hook it up and take it for a ride ,see how it handles . You will also need a weight Distribition hitch . My WDH also has sway control .
     
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    Wheels are stock alloy...don't know how to post pics.
     
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    Don't have the trailer yet.
     
  14. Aug 5, 2018 at 6:10 AM
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    You can’t pull something that big just off the tow ball .
     
  15. Aug 5, 2018 at 6:12 AM
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    I have the Reese style hitch
     
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    I will take a picture of my hitch , give me a few minutes :thumbsup:
     
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    WD hitch with anti sway bar . Probably around $500 74DA1A4F-3338-41CF-B2C1-F4EE37A40709.jpg 82E6D5E7-17C5-4242-AE66-3C69DF16E7EE.jpg 1C8F0B7D-CFF9-4C94-9C9F-00BDE00224C9.jpg
     
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    In the owners manual for my '13, the towing capacity definitions and various vehicle charts start on pg 221.

    This is for all Tacomas, not just mine. My 5 lug access cab 4cyl auto is 3500# tow.

    The 4.0s are either 3500 or 6500, depending on tow package or no.

    If you have the package, which you seem to have determined, you are rated for 6500# max, per Toyota.

    Your 3500# trailer should be no issue.

    I do recommend getting an owners manual if you don't have one. I'm pretty sure you can download a PDF version from Toyota for free. It contains a lot of good detail on towing terms, weight ratings of the vehicle and trailer, hitch types and loading, etc.

    Edit: Here ya go. https://www.toyota.com/owners/resources/owners-manuals

    The production date you need to know to select the right manual is in the label on your driver door jamb.

    Also: added a pic (not mine) to post 23 above. It is a 2nd gen, stock location, but the grill is not in the vehicle so you have a nicer view. Now you know what you are looking for.
     
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    Thanks Bill...based on what I have found and what you have told me I am confident as to what I have and what I can tow. Once I get the trailer I am still going to install the Timbren SES (or similar) and trailer brakes... I'm also going to read my owners manual! :thumbsup:
     
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