2018 Windshield Replacement

Agree, but i was referring to the crack windshield problem people are having on other postings.

 

Certainly. I just wanted to clarify the difference in two problems the OP has / had. Life can be unfair, but they hit the trifecta there. The third problem being the ultra-premium cost paid for bad quality.

A couple months ago, I got a small nick near the top of the windshield, right in front of me. It is in my line of sight all the time. I stopped by the dealer to ask what they would do and they just gave me a card for a third party shop. I stopped by a Safelite shop. The guy looked at closely and said that it will not spread even though there is the tiniest of leaders that was there from the moment that I noticed it. I never saw the pebble that caused it.

Thankfully, true to what Safelite said, it has not grown at all, but I keep looking at and monitoring it (I do need to snap a pic). If I come across one of the folks doing free insurance repairs in a parking lot, I will ask them for a second option and for them to fill it.

I agree with you that there is something up with the sheer number of broken windshields. Again, I do not feel that it is Pilkingtons problem. They made the part according to Toyota's specifications. If the outer layer is too thin, then it is all on Toyota for that. If Toyota wanted a ballistic quality windshield, Pilkington would have built it to that spec. If Pilkington's windshields are not being made to Toyota's specifications, that is still on Toyota to correct and drive the cost back to Pilkington.

 

Not trying to turn the subject or anything just sharing an experience i had this past weekend...also not advertising or anything just sharing... So i was on my way to work when a literal golf ball size rock smashed my windshield directly in front of where i was looking at the road, not a single car was in front of me, a transfer truck had just passed me on the opposite side so i assume it was from that... so that happened on a thursday the next day i called my insurance company and they set me an appointment with Safelite on Saturday at 830am on the same week it happened and it cost me $100 at time of appointment and were done within 1 and half hours... now i've had the new windshield in the truck since saturday and not one leak or whistle...OP i hope you get it fixed man cause that sucks...maybe try a glass installer or something and get the warranty with it ( most places warranty their work for free)...oh i replaced a Pilkington with another Pilkington windshield if that means anything

 

Legit argument?? LOL, you're a data point of ONE stop pretending to be scientific about this. Anyone who's ever taken a basic science course understands why you don't extrapolate conclusions from anecdotal experience... because it leads to stupid conclusions like yours.

If windshields were weaker than they were 10 years ago someone would've easily PROVED it by now, its an incredibly simple experiment.

But since we're accepting anecdotes I had to replace the windshield TWICE on my 1st gen that I never even offroaded and only put 25k miles on it. My third gen has 40k hard miles full of offroading and trips through terrible roads in Baja, its taken direct hits from rocks that have dented my fenders and A-pillar yet my glass is original.... BOOM I just proved 3rd gen glass is the STRONGEST EVER!

The 3rd gen windshields aren't softer but their owners sure seem to be.... 3rd gen section reads like a Subaru forum these days lol

 

Well perhaps the problem is for every single Toyota not only for Tacoma's if this is by their specification. I doubt Toyota will have different windshield specs for every individual cars/trucks.

 

This explains everything.

 

I am shocked that you found a dealer that would replace it. Most outsource the task because of reasons just like you experienced. Windshield installation is not something you can just throw at a mechanic. While I totally understand you wanting OE glass, there really is no need for it because Toyota doesn't make the glass. With windshields, it is best to stick with a reputable glass dealer.

 

Not necessarily. There are too many factors to list, to name a few: size, angle, height, airflow, etc., are all different for each Toyota model. They may also spec different compositions, thickness, and other critical windshield features differently for each model. When you're making 100,000+ of each model per year plus spares, you have the ability to control a lot with minimal change in price.

Uhhhh. . . Holy out-of-context Batman. Also, I think you need to hold my hand on that pic, although I agree I could not point out my own ass?

 

Haha, it's the Pilkington curse.

 

Stop trying to be scientific. Right. 14 years of hard conditions. No crack. Less than 17 months of the easiest no abusive driving I've ever done, 2 windshields.

Hey. Im super happy your windshield is working out for you. So by your science does that mean since yours is fine, there's not a quality control issue where x/1000 have deffect issues? Nope. Would never happen. As long as hino doesnt make windshields right ?

anecdotal experience.... Real life experiences? Must be completely irrelevant.


If it was one screen on a new truck, whatever. Crap happens. Even if no one else is on the road. We are talking Multiple in a short span

 

Ahh. Altough I probably resemble that title, I have not seen it. It is in my list, but I need to be in a very specific mood to watch anything starring Ricky Gervais.

 

Sorry didn't mean to interrupt your victimizing circle jerk... and yes your pointless bitching, as cathartic as it may be for yourself, is in fact irrelevant.

If your whining was based on actual evidence then like I said, it would've been easily proved. Take a 1st gen windshield and measure impact resistance vs a 3rd gen windshield and voila, actual evidence!

 

Circle jerks, random crying about 3rd gens. Victimizing? When did this become about me? My first statent was this is not a toyota exlusive thing. And impact resistance numbers? Sure. How about we grab the Rockwell hardness and tensile tests of the failed studs on the rear ends. Can you Google those for me or toss those on the machine? Know how to use one? Want me to show you how cut a dog bone and document a pull?

Please. Chill out kbro2.

My windshields cracked. only on third gens. With way less abuse. There maybe a pattern . Yeah some serious wining with just stating that. Cheers m8. Don't get so personal. I'm happy for you and your windshields.

 

Already replaced one windshield... at no cost !
My insurance company AAA offers full replacement coverage on glass.. great investment so far..can't recall cost per month but it was cheap...more people, more cars, expensive windshields and crappy roads =

Cheers

 

I agree completely. However, I tried all my local glass shops and since the 2018 Tacoma is so new (and it requires a different windshield then previous 3rd gens) that they wouldn’t be able to get it. So I had to source straight from Toyota.

 

Also, I wasn’t trying to start a fight on the forums! Let’s all be civil, guys.

I heard that Toyota used a “hollow acoustic glass” to reduce road and wind noise... maybe that is attributing to the weakness of the glass? Thoughts?

 

I have no dog in this fight, but I am certainly adding "victimizing circle jerk" to my list of phrases

 

That was offered on mine. I believe there is a difference between the limited glass and others? Which ever gets the premium sound system In it. Or maybe I just misunderstood the glass company when talking with them. Also, mine is a 17' so not sure if the new sensors add any factors.