2019 Tacoma “Straight From Dealers Hands”

The configurator is up and it's pretty much in sync with the Tacoma. A TRD OR equivalent FX4 is more but the lower and top trims are in favor of the Ranger.

They're a lot more flexible in optioning too so you don't have to get a specific trim for a rear locker, for example. Things like a tow package and the like are optional as well.

 

That’s what I like about Ford, GM and Ram. You can order your truck the way you want it. How many non off-road buyers would pay for a locker option?

 

I would have been super happy with an ACLB SR equivalent with utility package, MT, and ATRAC+locker. I never use most of the extra stuff my Off-Road came with like the charger, nav, or bed power.

Thing is the lowest price Ranger you can do with a rear locker is still $35k so it's not like it's cheaper.

 

Add up 4x4, double cab, locker, towing package, and whatever the offroad package is (skid plate, Ford version of cc), and it's way more.

 

I think Ford is worried about taking away sales from the F-150. A cheaper Ranger will do that.

 

Yup. My tally was that an equivalent XLT FX4 (FX4=OR package) was almost $3K more than a base Off-Road when you add all the bonuses but you can get them pretty close if you sacrifice a couple packages like the towing and ICE upgrades.

Though I will say the significant power increase and 10sp transmission are worth a fair amount and Sync 3 runs circles around Entune so the increases are justified to a degree.

 

There's no reason to price under your competition either. Taco and Ranger prices were always comparable but you could always walk out of a Ford dealer for less with the deeper discounts and more frequent low interest financing. That will probably be the case in years to come as well.

But you are right. There's still the Ford/Chevy/etc. or nothing crowds and while a Tacoma or Colorado aren't an option to their beloved F-150, the Ranger absolutely would - especially now that it's a mid-size and not compact.

 

So expensive considering I went MT. What's the Ranger Raptor going to be like 55k? if it comes to North America.

 

I think the F150 Raptor base price is under $50k so I would think a Ranger Raptor would be less.

 

This Ranger is now midsize and offers more then the old Ranger ever did. Ford was reluctant to bring the Ranger back. I am hoping that this makes Toyota more competitive in the midsize market. No one wants to see the Tacoma wait 10 years for a new model like the last generation or the current Tundra.

 

Frontier hasn’t been updated in over 13 years

 

Toyota hasn't ever been driven by becoming the first to market with options. They go slow and steady. I can't imagine things changing drastically. The tundra is a good example. Ford and Chevy are popping out tons of unreliable options, the tundra slow and steady does just fine.

 

I am a Toyota fan. I wouldn’t buy a Tundra.

 

Only reason they sell is price.

 

I would if I wanted a full size. My brother has been without his 14 Silverado for 6 weeks. 3 to diagnose, now it's getting a new engine at 58k miles. Ford and the ecoboost has many problems. If you want reliable, the tundra is a great option.

 

Show me a Raptor Sold at under 50k

 

cheapest I've seen are the base models and they're 52/53k, the loaded ones
around here sit at 80k+ on the lot.

 

Completely anecdotal. My neighbor got a new transmission in his Tundra at 20k and my dad has 200k+ on his 5.0L F150 with just maintenance. These are all n=1 or n=2 cases that mean nothing. The hard truth is that the Tundra is the least capable truck in its class by every measure. I would buy an updated Tundra in a heartbeat but reliability isn't nearly as bad on the domestics as some would imply and I see zero reason to buy an Off-Road Tundra over an FX4 F-150 - especially when that FX4 can be had for Tacoma money.

The reason you hear about so many issues with the F-150 is because they sell one every 30 seconds. Ford sells more F-150s in weekend than Toyota sells Tundras in a month. Hell, in a 3-day weekend, Ford has already beat Nissan and Toyota's combined monthly total. It's the same for Chevy and Dodge who still beat Toyota's monthly total in 3-4 days. These trucks are fucking everywhere.

 

I just mentioned the starting price my friend, whatever is added to it is on the purchaser.

 

$52k is typical once you add in delivery and destination charges to the $50,500 MSRP. That's pretty much what can be considered base price given no dealer is going to discount these trucks.