dirty deeds' deeds, done dirt CHEAP! and dirty vibes

Black Kangs!!

 

The fox shocks on my mountain bike ride great. Therefore everyone should buy Fox Shoxxx

 

Better T shirt logos.

 

Much yes. But, haven't seen a number for their travel length yet

 

You're right. Far as the Fox shocks go, short of the coating, they're industry leaders, not just the standard as the rest are. Much muchier in all thing used, again, except the choice of coating applied. And if I were to go 2.5, which is highly likely I will, they're only available in steel bodied, which can corrode faster.

So far, I've found out that I want/need 650lb coils and extended travel. With or without the swizzle stick DSC Adjusters, from any company. Though, it would be nice to go almost full wet noodle on the trails, then crank out the raging semi on pavement.

 

Are you running a uniball UCA?

 

SPC LR, old version

 

You continue to mention the coating. Are you looking for a coilover based on its coating? They all started out as steel and then were painted. you could paint them yourself....

But for real, all shock bodies that are steel will rust. There's not a coating on the planet that doesn't break down over time. Spraying Fluid Film on stuff really helps prevent this but don't ever solve it. There's also a reason steel is used. Aluminum is more malleable. Combine that with heat and it will expand much easier then steel. What will happen in these expansions is air will pass by the piston or vica versa and create what's called cavitation (basically air bubbles in the oil). This leads to an array of problems which culminates with blown seals from improper nitrogen pressure and shitty performance from air and oil now passing through the holes in the piston literally creating pockets of "untuned" motion.

Soooooooo Fox is a shock that categorically matches, or in many cases far exceeds, any other shock in human existence but you question getting them because the paint isn't as good? It's very confusing to me.

 

Are you planning to switch to a uniball? I was under the impression you wont be able to take advantage of the extended travel coilovers on a ball joint upper as they will limit the coilover. Asking for my own benefit as I am on 5100s and stock UCA's and have been back and forth on the subject.

 

Idk, guess I'm just sweating having rusty $1500+ shocks. But they'll match my slightly rusty sliders and frame

Fox is the industry leader, for sure!

Pricing from HS Offroad:
Ext travel, 650 coils, and adjusters
ADS - $1949.50
Fox - $1959.95

ADS is slightly cheaper w/ and w/out adjusters.

 

Not planning on it.

To really answer and add to this point; in email convo between Marie at HS, I was not told my SPC LR ucas wouldn't work with either the Fox or ADS COs. If wrong, hoping someone can chime in about it.

 

https://www.spcalignment.com/index.php?option=com_spc&task=part_description&pid=25002

 

- reference

Don't take it as gospel, but I think I already have those in there

 

You're willing to pay that much for performance coilovers, and you're worried about a 10 fucking dollar difference? The fuck deeds? Get the damn foxes.

 

Just go SAW and get it over it with. And get 2.5 everything.

I personally am not a fan of Fox. Can't get behind a company that produces 2 lines of shocks. Performance and Factory series can suck it. How about they just make one line of quality shocks instead of a cheap line and a quality line.

And I still say Resi's are overrated for the application we use. You're going 15 mph through mud, not blasting over dunes.

 

http://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/fox-2-5-factory-series-vs-2-5-performance-series/

This reads pretty "Pro Fox", but read between the lines.

They offer 2 lines. One is substandard to the other. This topic honestly irks me and turns me off to their products. It's the "Good, Better, Best" rating system.

You can't buy Factory series, without Resi's. They do not offer smooth body Factory shocks, at all, iirc. Which in turn jacks up the price for "Factory Series"

Resi's look cool. I personally don't want to pay extra $ to look cool though. If I was running fast, then the resi's might have a bit more purpose then they do for climbing up mountains.

IMO...this stuff is designed to take your money.

I ride plenty fine on my DKs, Camburgs (SAW), All pros and cheap Toytec rears. I cheaped out on rears, spend wisely and for your uses. Not for some stupid ass looks.

 

I don't care to be a part of the above discussion but if I may make a suggestion Nick .....

Speaking out of ignorance towards Headstrong, I would purchase my coilovers from a company who's not just a retailer but who works on shocks and tunes shocks. Off the shelf tuning is very generic. Yes it will be better then what you currently have but it's still generic. This means regardless of vehicle weight, tire size, wheel/tire weight, terrain driven on, horsepower, etc .... every coilover is valved the exact same. To use an analogy, it's like buying a turbo diesel from the dealership, keeping it stock then using it to tow a 10k# trailer every weekend. It will be fine but the guy next to you with the exact same truck who chose to put a programmer, intake and exhaust on to gain 300 more torque is using the turbo diesel better specifically to his needs.

You're worried about buying $1500 coilovers that rust (once again, they all fucking rust!) but you're not worried about buying $1500 coilovers and only using 30% of their performance potential. Downsouth Motorsports, SDHQ, Accutune Offroad, etc .... will custom valve your coilovers for YOUR truck. Not Matt's, Not Mike's, not a 6k# tundra. YOUR truck. If this doesn't appeal to you, you'll be just fine and not any worse off then all the other guys with generic valving. If you want to get a far superior performance experience and actually use the potential of your $1500 rusty steel coilovers then giving one of the aforementioned companies a call is the best decision you can make.

Once again, Headstrong may do this but I haven't personally heard anything pertaining to them having extensive knowledge of shock tuning.

 

Now this is the response from you I wanted! Pointing me in a better direction to achieve the proper end result.
I guess I was a bit ignorant to the valve tuning and didn't expect much beside off the shelf, and to twist the adjusters to my own liking. Still unsure about adjusters anyway, but I also don't want something that's just okay for on/off road, rather it be adjustable and near greatness at both. If I can regular resi shocks turned right, I'll leave off the adjustment knobs.

When the time comes to get the shocks, likely tax return season, I will look to one of the mentioned shops instead.

She did just buy a 2015 Traverse LTZ awd today

 

Already have their ext travel 2.0 Performance Series IFP in the rear and it was a damn magical difference over the 5100s! Slap in leaf packs and I'm good with the rear for a while.

To add to what you feel about Fox making multiple lines of shocks, think about Bilstein man. They make 3 or more different shock setups for a Taco, from $300-$2000.

Sure, resis aren't exactly "needed" for how most of us wheel, but Lola gets what Lola wants. And Lola wants to put resi shocks on front of my truck and I'll let her.