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why the other guy sold it?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by hubcapsc, Aug 22, 2018.

  1. Aug 22, 2018 at 3:45 PM
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    hubcapsc

    hubcapsc [OP] Un-Known Stranger

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    I've fixed (mostly had fixed :cool: ) several things on my 1st gen since I got
    it a few months ago... the seller installed CV joints and lower ball joints from O'Reillys
    right before I bought it, and I had a OEM steering rack and bushings and tie rods installed
    at Southeast Overland in Seneca SC :thumbsup: . The steering went from disappointing to
    pretty darn good.

    I just got back from Action Automotive in Westminster SC :thumbsup: with a much thinner
    wallet -

    [​IMG]

    The knob on the dashboard that controlled the ducts/vents was a no-op and
    air conditioning condensate came out in the cab despite me unplugging the
    drain under the hood numerous times. I'm imagining how awful it would
    be in the winter not to be able to direct hot air up on the windshield.

    I don't really know why the previous owner got rid of my truck, but I wouldn't
    be surprised if bad steering and a non-functional dashboard had a lot to do
    with it.

    Not shown on the bill, they also rotated and balanced, which took some
    shimmy out of the steering wheel...

    They ordered the heater box from a dealer (and paid retail) and my truck was there
    for over a week. Numerous people asked them to ask me if I'd sell it while it was
    there. People like these trucks.

    I learned about both of these shops that I've used here on this board. I was able to
    talk at length with the mechanics at both places and I'm real glad to know about
    them.

    -Mike
     
  2. Aug 22, 2018 at 4:42 PM
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    cruxofthebisquit

    cruxofthebisquit Well-Known Member

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    OME and worth every penny.
    Prob. wanted a new truck.
     
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  3. Aug 23, 2018 at 7:53 AM
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    KdF

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    East-ByGod-TEXAS!
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    90 bucks for a TPS and 60 to install?????? I was in the wrong business.
     
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  4. Aug 23, 2018 at 8:22 AM
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    hubcapsc

    hubcapsc [OP] Un-Known Stranger

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    The TPS is (I think) not even OEM, and I don't have a clue about how hard
    it was to install. But I didn't have to diagnose it, or fix it, (it is better that way :) )
    and I have high confidence in the guy who did all the work. I think good shops have to
    make money to exist.

    -Mike "I see an OEM TPS, 89452-35020, for $51.95 at toyotapartsdeal"
     
  5. Aug 23, 2018 at 4:12 PM
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    The Driver

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    I had my TPS go bad last year. I stopped at O'reillys or Autozone, and had the code pulled. Then I ordered a Toyota factory part from an Ebay vendor. $29 shipped to my house, it took all of 5 mins to replace, and it arrived 2 or 3 days later.

    Yes, I did buy the O'reillys/Autozone part that night, and installed the following morning. As soon as the factory part arrived, I swapped it out, and returned it. Not the most ethical thing, but GOD knows I spend a fortune yearly at those car stores!
     
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  6. Aug 23, 2018 at 4:14 PM
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    tony2018

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    TPS also has be adjusted if its aftermarket
     
  7. Aug 24, 2018 at 5:11 PM
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    Currygoat

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    Bought a Denzo oxygen sensor on Amazon for $85 recently I think.
     
  8. Aug 24, 2018 at 6:15 PM
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    hubcapsc

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    I looked to see how to install the throttle positioning sensor...

    [​IMG]

    I'm glad I didn't have to screw around with this rusty old muffler... (I do think my frame
    is not rusty)...

    [​IMG]
    Oh well... the stuff is fixed... :spending:

    -Mike
     
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  9. Aug 24, 2018 at 6:34 PM
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    Dude not bashing you but what you did is considered fruad basically you are renting it. If you did a supposed “crime” I just wouldn’t mention it, people are not gonna turn you in here but don’t implicate yourself fwiw. Nice truck glad it’s fixed.
     
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  10. Aug 24, 2018 at 11:54 PM
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    Fraud over a $40 part? Who's gonna charge me with it? Trust me, not only I'm not afraid to post it, I have not lost any sleep over it.
     
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  11. Aug 25, 2018 at 12:05 AM
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    It's not fraud lol...he returned the part according to their return policy. He wasn't happy with it after comparing it to another part so he returned it, they accepted the return and everyone lives to fight another day. I don't see how that's fraud.

    Some may find it ethically our morally borderline but that's certainly not fraud...
     
  12. Aug 25, 2018 at 1:38 AM
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    Tacomamike mike

    Tacomamike mike Just that, nothing more.

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    You’re right it’s not fraud and it’s not illegal either.
    But that doesn’t make it right.
    I would not do it, just because I wouldn’t. Lol “fraud” and “Implicating “ ones self :rofl:
    Too many deputy dawgs
     
  13. Aug 25, 2018 at 4:44 AM
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    I hope that non-OEM one I got isn't the one he returned...

    -Mike
     
  14. Aug 25, 2018 at 4:53 AM
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    Tacomamike mike Just that, nothing more.

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    And that’s exactly why I would not do it and it’s not right
     
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  15. Aug 25, 2018 at 7:03 AM
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    What is wrong with returning a part that is inferior to an OEM one? This isn't fraud and it isn't unethical. If a product is unacceptable, then returning the POS is the right thing to do. In fact, it helps the buyers because the supplier will either make a better part or get out of the business.
     
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  16. Aug 25, 2018 at 7:38 AM
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    I agree with you just saying that calling it unethical makes more sense to me (even though I disagree) than calling it fraud. At least ethics is a matter of opinion, fraud is an actual crime
     
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  17. Aug 25, 2018 at 8:01 AM
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    It has been a couple of days. I've driven the truck around some. I'm happy
    that the check engine light is off. But more than that, and I didn't really
    think about it, but I believe the truck runs better... I guess the sensors
    supply data to whatever passes for a computer on a 2002 vehicle and
    now that the data is more accurate, the computer is doing its job
    better?

    -Mike "or maybe it is all in my head..."
     
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  18. Aug 25, 2018 at 8:05 AM
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    Not in your head, it's true that a vehicle will perform poorly when the CEL is on...if it was receiving incorrect info from a bad sensor then it would definitely ride poorly. Glad it's healthy again
     
  19. Aug 25, 2018 at 11:35 PM
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    Alot of my writing is misconstrued, the policies the stores have and what the law says is grey area, you’re gonna get away with it every time anyway, lol. I ain’t judging, if it seems so, then ok.
     
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    Yes...:boink::D
     

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