11,000 miles Clutch Failure?

Um....No.

 

Tranny fight!!!!!

 

Thanks I had no idea

 

No problem!

You definitely what to off the pedal as much as possible. That is the only goal, sort of like a game.

 

No worries, it's not even my thread. Everything helps.
Should I ask the dealer to remove the accumulator or better to deal with this later?
Will leaving it intact cause premature wear on the URD clutch?
My understanding is it delays the full grab of the clutch just enough that after I fully release the pedal and then accelerate right away, it's still not 100% engaged, allowing it to be overly soft and smooth, no bite.

Dealer was concerned about the differences between the URD and factory clutch/flywheel.

URD Kit in photos just arrived...

 

I would honestly ask @Gadget@URD about removing the accumulator when using their clutch for warranty issues.

I personally would remove it and never think twice about it. This is the only vehicle I have ever owned with a clutch accumulator on it. Removing it made the clutch in my truck act normal to me compared to the hydraulic clutches I have had in the past.

 

I had one at about 600-700 miles if I remember correctly.

 

Exactly what @RedBeard1 said. The accumulator is killing clutch feel. Getting rid of it will give more throw and potentially less slippage.

The one big deal is if the dealer will help remove it. Usually they won't do anything that is outside the OEM config.

 

So the URD is in and it's incredible. Grabs hard right off the floor. Maybe I'm wrong but throttle feels more direct by comparison to the factory sponge.
Very twitchy at first but already smoothing out a bit. Loaded trailer from stand still up hill over a small curb, feathered as needed for few seconds maybe at 3K, no smell, sound, or smoke.
With trailer, let up the clutch pedal a bit too fast to (very tiny) friction point and with no throttle, tires chirped (33's) over once before I pushed pedal back in, no stall.
Easily beats and exceeds my expectations of a clutch for this truck. Can't believe I was subject to that factory garbage for 37K kms, way too many embarrassing moments.

I messaged dealer about accumulator but doubt they did anything, I didn't ask yet. Pedal feedback is much improved anyways, was shocking at first.

Corp. verified it's wear and tear, nice argument on the phone, like talking to a robot. When he left the first voicemail I thought it was a computer voice.
Will be looking at CAMVAP unless anyone thinks small claims is better.

After 1hr initial drive, highway cruise, got stuck in 3rd and 4th a few times, and shifting in general feels rougher. Gears used to pull themselves in, now hitting a wall and slips in only when it like the rpm.

Possible synchros were damaged during install?
Or they just need break in period to 'sync' up?

This new thing with the gears locking is preventing me from saying they actually installed it proper.

 

Nice to see your URD installed, I was searching this thread. Did you use the OEM throw out bearing? Some others had a very slight issue after install.

What MT fluid do you have in?

 

This sounds like it is not fully releasing. Doubtful they did any damage during install. I would wonder if the accumulator is working against you, or you have another hydraulic issue.

 

I do not know if this is needed on the Taco where the shifter is directly on the transmission, but our past front wheel drive cars had linkages for the gear box that was a distance away. You have to align the linkage so that it was indexed and shifted properly. If this is a thing for the Taco, maybe the shifter's alignment just needs to be checked?

 

I think on 2016 and a few 2017 the shifter would stick in gear on the highway, i believe there is a TSB that changes a Spring or Ball.

 

Hope they didn't make you pay to replace a clutch that early. Nice upgrade btw. Isn't it warranted for 12k? I've seen people who've never driven stick smoke clutches in a few hundred, or a thousand miles and were always covered. Even mustangs and vettes. The newer oem manual trans parts are not well made and don't hold up to most daily use, let alone any real driving. Think they do that on purpose so you have to replace it. I mean the manual the Jk used is a twenty year old Mercedes Benz box truck trans. Glad you got it fixed.

 

Any more info on this? Would be nice to have some reference to provide dealer.

I am not sure what transmission fluid was used but will ask.


@Riotfunk
I'm not the OP (11K miles), though I initially complained about clutch performance from the first 2000kms while towing, it just completely went now at 37000kms. If I towed more often or simply wasn't trying to take care of the truck like it was my first new vehicle, thing would have went much sooner. Currently am out over $3000CAD and will try to claim it back but not too hopeful. If you don't drive the truck like a truck you might never know just how shitty the clutch is, sad.

 

Just do a search on here, there should be a TSB for it sticking in gear after highway driving, hopefully that is all that is wrong with your truck.

 

Another note, the transmission will not lubricate itself coasting in neutral like it normally does.

 

I had the part ordered. I checked with the parts folks during my 10k ToyotaCare visit yesterday and it seems they never placed the order in their system. It's on its way now along with some touch up paint. I will pick them up once they are both in.

 

@shakerhood thanks for pointing out the TSB .. after much persuasion dealer finally did it (first thing before even trying to look into it, he said it's US only, not for your vehicle) and I am yet to drive long enough to see if it helped.

It did NOT fix my notchy gear issue where feels like each time I change from 1st to 2nd I'm in cue for the gear and when it's ready it allows me in, can take anywhere from 1 to 5+ seconds.
Situation has gotten more frequent since clutch installed, barely noticed at first. Now almost every time.

Found today that once I hit the 2nd gear wall, if I move shifter slightly away from the gear and try again right away (like a double tap), feels like the wall thing resets and slips in easier.
Clutch to the floor the whole time, haven't tried double clutching yet.

And now I wait to see how 'corporate' wants to proceed with the case# dealer was reluctant to file since it will be a big battle or something. He was lots of fun, telling me it must be the aftermarket clutch since it just started happening, and that corp is gonna say the same and might tell me to install factory clutch on my dime to see if still does it. Sure glad I got the 120000KM ECP, already paying for itself, another 80000KM of void warranty and deflection to go.
Went for a ride with a tech and he verified it's nothing to do with clutch, something big or small is up with transmission.

Wondering if might have anything at all to do with pedal adjustment and how the friction point is so close to floor now and was way up high on stock.