Sort of surprised...

So I posted this thread yesterday in the suspension section and I'm sort of surprised that no one has shown any interest. It's a "did the research, composed what feels like a solid build, could use some polishing if needed" and not "build my suspension setup please" with the response of either "see link provided" or "use search feature". Anyways, I digress, I figured since it's 2nd gen specific it would be applicable to the 2nd gen specific section.

To be clear, I'm not posting this for it to be interpreted as needy/pushy, I'm merely shifting gears to a platform that may allow for a larger audience who may be interested. If it doesn't tickle your fancy, that's totally fine. It never hurts to try and reach out to others who may be able to shed light on something that was overlooked or wasn't taken into consideration.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/anyone-care-to-chime-in.566922/

 

I feel a lot of the “lack of interest” is that it’s in the Suspension section that doesn’t really get looked at by anybody that’s already done suspension.

My feedback:

• Unless you’re doing a DB lift, I’d stay away from anything over 3”.
• Do you have a need for the 700# coils and AAL? That’s going to be rough if you don’t have the extra weight.
• No need for top plate spacers with adjustable coilovers.
• I’d do an axle shim before a carrier bearing drop. I’ve got neither and have no vibes.

I can comment on a few others in a bit after I get back from gym.

 

@dan0mite

Thanks for the quick reply

Response:

• Forgive me for asking, but would you refresh my memory as to what the "DB" acronym stands for?
• Doing the math the #700's would be fine coupled with the weight of armor, gear, misc. It might be possible with #650's
• Good eye on that. I found that out after posting the list. You can easily adjust the CO's to compensate for lean which, as you pointed out, negates the needs for spacer/s.
• Good point, better to change one thing and chase a single source candidate instead of multiple changes at once which in turn increases variables and source candidates.

Get yo swole on bro, talk to you later.

 

DB is a drop bracket lift. Usually a 6" lift

 

@TacoCat

Bingo! Thank you sir for the refresher.

A DB route was never under consideration. I've looked into it and simply put, it's a "mall crawler"/"look at me" thing (not bashing anyone with a DB, just merely an opinion) with more bust than boom.

 

700s would be ideal for all the armor as well as the heavy leafs with the AAL. You’ll have a shit ton of preload and squatting in the rear without it. My truck is stupid heavy and I run 700s with the old OME pack and

$81 D29XL Leaf Spring

D29XL leaf and it’s working out great.

As far as swole on...I’m just a fat boy trying to make sure I stay around longer for my son to grow up. Now it’s time for my breakfast pizza with extra pepperoni.

 

I don't blame you,as a DB lift is not really reversable

 

Curious why people tend to go straight to the Fox 2.5s?

Fox 2.0s are alluminium which was the major selling point for me when I replaced my rear shocks. Unfortunately I'm moving up to Dakars soon so my 0-1.5 shocks meant for my AAL will be of no use, but I may go right back to the 2.0s.

I would also agree on the suspension section. It can either be overwhelming in certain threads, or a ghost town.

 

As far as Fox is concerned, it's not a bandwagon thing. Everyone's experiences, good and bad, vary from company to company (e.g. Fox, King, ADS, OME, Bilstein, etc, etc.). Anyways, Fox just sort of jumped out at me in regards to fit, form and finish. As far as the items themselves go, I'm sort of at a stand still with the three CO options. I like the listed model of shocks for their range of travel, larger dia. shaft (5/8" = 0.625") compared to the B110's (IIRC is ~14mm = ~0.55"), they're digressive, can be rebuilt without sending them off or back to Fox, ect. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but "Resi's" are for applications in which the time intervals between compression and rebound are very very small (for example, high speed through whoops) and due to that small time frame, the fluid heats up and loses it's lubricity/viscosity/etc. much faster. I think it would be safe to say that that was my reasoning behind going with this IFP version rather than with a model with RR's.

 

With full coilovers I'd suggest a uniball UCA. Lightracing makes a good product but it very well may be your limiting factor in travel and durability with the rest of your set-up

 

LR ball joint UCAs have more down travel than any uni ball UCAs I've seen specs on. At full droop, I really think I could use limiting straps.

 

I have to agree with @Pigpen, from what I have read they are sort of underrated. Greaseable ball joints, etc. Good range for adjusting caster and camber, I've also heard that they are a little more "user friendly". IIRC, they're cast steel too.

BUT, that's merely an opinion. Different strokes and all that jazz.

 

I'm running the Fox 2.5 extended travel (883-02-025), SPC UCAs, and swaybar delete up front and the old style Dakar pack in the rear with the 3rd leaf removed paired with Fox 2.0 RR (985-24-118).

What weight are you running that makes you feel you are going to need the 700lb coils and the HD Dakar with the AAL? That's not going to ride great unless you have a lot of extra weight. FWIW, I have skids, bolt on sliders with fill plates, rear HC bumper with a swingout, and a Relentless Fabrications Sting-Ray low profile bumper with a winch up front in addition to a shell and about 100lbs of gear in the bed and I'm happy with how it rides.

 

@stickyTaco

Well now, that is a considerable amount of weight you have there sir, touché. Not only that but pretty close to what I had in mind weight wise. Only thing different is that I was considering a softtop and bed rack combo (for some reason tickles my fancy) and about 150-200lbs in gear, etc.

Btw, the 883-02-025’s, do you happen to know what weight springs come with the CO’s?

 

Fox uses a 600lb spring on their shocks.

If you don't have the armor yet, I'd hold off on swapping the springs or installing an AAL on the HD Dakar.

I was more interested in wheel travel than ride height so I didn't adjust the coilovers at all after installing my bumper. I lost about 1/2 of lift with the added weight. The stingray bumper is about 60-80lbs lighter than a full bumper would be too.

 

Good input, the idea was to approach this in stages and not to pull some whiskey throttle haberda-shenanigans.

I'd have to agree with you on wheel travel vs OVA lift. I'm more interested in the fluidity and dexterity of the suspension during "xyz" of articulation while navigating obstacles over clearance any day of the week.

BTW, damn good looking truck bud!