Off-Roading with your Daily Driver?

Yea, but what does that have to due with width? We are just saying compound makes the grip, but what does width have to do with it since friction isn't a function of contact area.

 

Because is not about quantity, its about quality. Compound and construction are more important than “rubber on the road”, as theu will create more friction = traction.

 

My bad, I read your original post wrong. I thought you said wider WILL ALWAYS give you more traction. So then why have 30" wide tires on a top fuel dragster?

 

I did find this. I’m still reading through it

https://www.stevemunden.com/friction.html

 

P=W/A
Tire Ground Contact Pressure =
Total (W)eight on tire/Tire contact (A)rea

It doesnt have anything to do with the PSI of the air inside the tire, and would be the same on a solid wheel with the same weight and contact area.

 

Not enough of that on the interwebs.

 

So this article seems to imply that given two tires that are the same compound that the friction of the tire would be the same given the force applied regardless of skinny or wide

So 250 pounds of force on a skinny tire would offer the same friction as a wider tire with the same 250 pounds of force.

The advantage lends to other things like heat and strength of the tire.

 

If does have "something" to do with the air inside the tire. If you lower the pressure in the tire, the contact patch gets larger and vice versa. But we determined it's heavily influenced by the tire construction so that average contact ground pressure is not equal to the internal tire pressure.

 

I'd guess it's a material strength and heat issue.

 

Please not that on the rear, no matter how much you lift the truck, the only way to gain clearance is to fit larger wheels and that's it.

The body of the truck may be higher off the ground with a lift, but your rear axle won't be any higher off the ground unless it's sitting on larger wheels.

 

So I guess large drag tires are large to handle both the heat and stress from the large amount of power applied to them and the grip is determined by compound.

 

Theres a skinny vs wide tire debate foing on a different thread too, the smaller the contact patch, the more PSI the tires exhert on the ground. Thats why snow shoes vs stilletoes are so popular in snowy areas!

 

absolutely

 

That's for flotation. Snowshoes help you not punch through and make it easier to walk. You want a vehicle to "punch through" so to speak in order to make contact with the road. A skinnier tire is generally better in snow and ice all else being equal.

 

5100's, 285's, little trimming etc, then get yourself at least a front IFS skid. Shouldn't hurt you too much on MPGs and I found it rode better over TRD-Sport suspension with just the 5100s. Just don't max them out on height without aftermarket UCAs. I just need to get my 285's when these shoes need changing.

 

Thanks. This is the info I needed. Sounds like you are saying that with the 5100s you need the new coils up front. I just went to a local shop and they said I didn't. I didn't get the sense they really knew what they were talking about though.

I was also under the impression that if I didn't 1.5" with the shocks that I wouldn't need to modify any other suspension parts. Sounds like you are saying I might need a couple things. How do I know for sure?

EDIT: Also, what is the difference with the 3 leaf AAL vs the single? I assume 2 more springs, but when would you want the single vs 3 leaf AAL?

 

Every truck is different. Every scenario is different. What works for one might not for another. There is no way to guarantee or know for sure.

 

FIFY

 

Just wheel it as you please. I have 3 other vehicles and prefer to daily my TRD OR.

 

Isn't that true of the front as well? I mean, the front lift will lift some of the underbody stuff, but the axle parts would still be the same height wouldn't they?