Stoptech Big Brake Kit Group Buy 2005-2017 Tacoma and Others

2nd gen

 

That sounds doable, I mean it is setup for compress air regardless of the sources. A fitting from the Motive should be the same with a air compressor line except it's setup for low air pressure.

 

LOL

 

When I bought that part for my 2nd gen, I pressurized it for a good 15 mins and it held the pressure fine with not one issue so I doubt there should be any issues with a air compressor line toned down to 15 psi

 

Thank you. I did exactly this. Didn’t notice any serious rubbing issues, so I took off the calipers and noticed that the rotors looked unevenly worn after only 2 weeks of driving. After closer inspection it turns out I’m just a dumbass. I put the same side brake pad on both sides. The package of 4 pads came in one box, with two pairs rubber banded together. Naturally I thought that each pair banded together would go for each rotor. Maybe it was my lack of sleep all night, but I ended up putting in two rights and two lefts in either rotor. Embarrassing lol.

I’m glad I caught it though because the rotors were already somewhat warped. I just had to reinstall everything, switch the pads around and it’s all good now. Thank you for the help.

 

Are they direct bolt on? or Do you use a bracket? Do you know the diameter of the rotor?

Thanks

 

There is a bracket. Diameter of the rotor is right around the same as stock I believe it's just thicker. I had the part numbers on the invoice but I threw it out, sorry.

 

The only reason I heard rubbing was because there was almost no clearance with ST-60 calipers, the rotor and the 16'' wheels. I can imagine if I had more clearance that I would have never noticed the problem. The rotor got warped quickly and was wobbling as it went around. Your brake pads may be different though, and they may have come in the package differently (rubber banded how they're suppose to be). There is a rounded side at the bottom of the pad, that side should go into the calipers first. Mine fit how they should not have, and didn't seem like an issue at all when installing or after install was done. The four pads I have are definitely not the same however, as I've found out.

When I went to take off the rotors, the bolts on the passenger side caliper-to-axle bracket were easy enough to loosen by hand although I had torqued them to 85lbs like the instructions say to do. That side rotor needed to be hit with the mallet a few times as it was stuck to the axle. On the other hand, the drivers side rotor falling off the axle and had worn down the pads significantly more. There were little specs of pad buildup everywhere and the whole caliper/rotor was very dirty compared to the passenger side. When I reinstalled it I had to jack up the drivers side of the car a few more inches than the passenger side, tighten three lug nuts on the rotor to hold it in place, then put the caliper bracket back onto the axle which I torqued to 90lbs this time. At that point it finally didn't rub the rotor as I spun it with the calipers tight on there. The whole "free-float" type rotor doesn't really make sense to me. Luckily both sides went back on and didn't lock up with the brake pads reinstalled the correct way. I honestly thought I'd need new rotors and pads. The wear on the rotors from having the pads backwards for only two weeks was really impressive. Having them on the right way should correct the wear pattern somewhat if not all the way over time.

I'd have to give this kit 3/5 stars for a few reasons, not due to how it stops the vehicle - it does that great. More due to whats included in the kit and the installation instructions. If you aren't mechanically inclined or you haven't done a full brake change before, expect to run into problems. Firstly I received only one shim to replace two dust covers. They should ask if you have a 4x4 because I don't see the reason they'd even give a shim if you do. It would be impossible to get the dust cover off without pulling the axle. Even if I decided to pull the axle I'd only have one shim anyways. Cutting the dust cover really isn't that hard with a cheap dremel and 1 1/2 inch metal cutting wheels. With the cheap dremel, expect to be going through 2+ cutting wheels a side. In the instructions I got it said there was a guide included to mark where to cut. I didn't get a guide in my kit, so at first I just put the caliper on and saw where I would need to cut for it to fit. That ended up being really wrong, so I just ended up trimming it as much as possible. There are a bunch of little straight metal pieces that are separated to allow ventilation out on the bottom of the dust cover - your cutting line should be at the base of those, leaving only a tiny little portion of dust cover on the axle when you're finished.

Secondly, the instructions are seriously vague. I watched a video of a guy doing a StopTech BBK on a Tundra on YouTube and it helped tremendously. The pads that were included in my kit were rubber banded together in two sets. I figured one was for each caliper. If only I hadn't skipped through the part of that guys install video where he says to put the rounded side on the bottom of the pads into the caliper first. The instructions on this kit say "put the pads in and put the retaining scews in next" or something like that. Also, nothing about bleeding the brakes or how to install the brake lines is included. I thought I'd be fine as I've changed clutch lines in the past. It wasn't, I got brake fluid literally everywhere. Bleeding the brakes is also a bitch, and it should definitely be included in the instructions that you have to bleed the back brakes too after install or you're in for a mushy pedal. I want do my own DIY to help the future guys out who get this kit when I have time in the next few weeks. If you get this kit, feel free to PM me and I can give you some pointers or answer any questions you have.

 

Yeah I just never expected there could be so much air in the rear lines, passenger side specifically. It should definitely reference something about bleeding the brakes in the install instructions. 19” are pretty big, do you already have the rear kit? It sounds like you may need it! What size tires do you run? Powder coating is a good idea, I’ve already got some rust down there. In fact when I first got the vehicle there was rust all over the top of the brake pedal. Got the dealership to bust the rust and paint it on Toyota’s dime. I got lucky.

I’d like to do the rear conversion but $$ is tight for me, especially after dropping $1500 on the front brake kit. Thanks for that info though if I had the cash I’d definitely hop on it, although I’m not concerned about my stopping power anymore. The stock brakes really suck.

 

I’m not upset at all, not sure how you concluded that. I had a pressurized pump filled with fluid attached to the master cylinder resevoir the entire time. So I don’t know how air got in there, no need to get all worked up about it. And you’re right every time I work on the truck I get to know it better and I do learn something. That sucks you don’t have much power. I was gonna ask why you upgraded to the st40 instead of 60 especially running bigger tires but now I know. Good luck to you Mr Hay

 

Quick question do factory wheels 17” fit with spacers?

 

correct speed bleeds for these?

 

tempting, they also have calipers in blue.......

 

Does anyone know if these brake kits work with the 16" steel wheels that came with the 3rd gen OR? Not sure what the clearance is like and if it will clear.

 

Good to know

 

Has anyone changed pads yet? Mine are about due.