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Pelfrey Informational Thread - One Post Condensed Version

Discussion in 'Pelfreybilt Off-Road' started by ETXTacoma, Sep 9, 2018.

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  1. Sep 12, 2018 at 4:25 PM
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    Riding Dirty

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    Maybe they listed those within a certain timeframe? Example, all orders in the last 9 months? Just a guess.
     
  2. Sep 12, 2018 at 6:32 PM
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    Knowing of at least two others I would bet this is what happened, probably just logged into their sites admin back end and exported all the customer orders to a spreadsheet
     
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  3. Sep 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM
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    If that's the case then what would explain people who made deposits and aren't on the list? Like myself
     
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  4. Sep 13, 2018 at 10:51 AM
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    Probably method of taking that deposit, for instance, an export of an ecommerce admin backend would not include manual telephone transactions..
     
  5. Sep 14, 2018 at 7:26 AM
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    Thank you for providing this. I was able to get most of the public documents unaltered.

    I hate the Redact Police, who destroy public documents.
     
  6. Sep 14, 2018 at 7:33 AM
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    Did anyone else get a bankruptcy statement form in the mail with their names and all their information on it?
     
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  7. Sep 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM
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    If you mean the Pelfrey's bankruptcy filing notice and case information, then yes. Many of us. I believe their attorney sent one to everyone listed as a creditor in their filing paperwork (which includes all of us who paid for parts and never received them).
     
  8. Sep 14, 2018 at 10:29 AM
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    Is it just to confirm to us that its happening or are we supposed to give it to our banks?
     
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  9. Sep 14, 2018 at 10:45 AM
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    It is notice, which is required by law, that PB is filing for Ch 7 Bankruptcy and listed you as a creditor (someone they owe money or product to). You do not have to give it to your bank. The information in the notice is to inform you of your rights, hearing dates, bankruptcy trustee, jurisdiction of the action (San Diego), etc.
     
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  10. Sep 14, 2018 at 10:50 AM
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    Just to confirm that is is happening and that you are on the list and what you are supposed to do, essentially you need to read it and see what your options are.
     
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    Do we know what inventory they have? I am thinking that if someone files for excemption from inclusion of their debt due to the products being available that maybe the court will allow recovery and include PB assets in the lot. I am not a lawyer but a precursory glance at this shows no mention of pelfrey built (the company) and it's assets. They can file for exemption of property and my worry is that they will ask that their company, IP and material property will be exempted as the company is technically a separate entity. They each listed us specifically which mean we cannot go after them, or the property they claim excemption from. I don't want to assume the worst but this is feeling like some wool is getting ready to be pulled over our eyes.
     
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    thank you for this thread. it is very informative for me trying to move forward. Michael was a great help to me throughout my whole process. I think he was just as shocked as us. After all, they moved him from out of state to help them. I feel bad for all involved. Vendors have started to reach out to help. I appreciate this forum and the community. I am pretty new, only been building my truck for about 3 years. It is nice to know there are good humans out there. THANK YOU.
     
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    You have any orders on with them? Everyone here in Hawaii is getting them.. and people who don’t have orders are as well. Looks like they just pulled a database entry and mailed it in with the filing claim.

    All I know is NFCU stepped up like a G and didn’t even ask questions. They immediately fired up the Reg E investigation and are still going at it even after I told them PayPal got me back for the April payment. Guessing it’s just to double down that my money is good.
     
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    Geez what a lowlife. That's more BKs than Donald Trump...

    Anyway, people who accumulate debt fraudulently (as in accepting funds for an order you never intend to fulfill, and I've read in other threads that they did just that!) are not entitled to a discharge of said debt. But you as a creditor still have to file your proof of claim and thereby enter the BK case.

    Didn't read this whole thread so this may have been mentioned already but it's worth repeating I figure.

    Good luck folks, hope you are made whole, or as close to as possible!
     
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    Hopefully someone has contacted the San Diego Division of The FBI and voiced their concerns to an agent on either a cyber or financial crimes squad. Sounds like Pelfrey committed fraud up until the eleventh hour and need to be held accountable.
     
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    Yea brother, been waiting a little while for my sliders. If my dipshit self didnt order them wrong in the group buy, I wouldn't have been in this predicament.
     
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  17. Sep 15, 2018 at 2:04 PM
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    Already in motion San Diego FBI Field Division, El Cajon Police Department and San Diego DA's office.
     
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    The San Diego office will most likely open a fraud investigation against Pelfrey
     
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    Hello everyone. We have been watching this whole Pelfrey thing and would like to offer help how we can. We would like to offer FREE sliders to the first 5 people who can show their invoice from getting burned on their slider order. After 5 we will offer a 20% discount to anyone else burned. We wish we could give more and we know this won’t fix everyone they burned, but we would like to do what we can.

    Email your Pelfrey slider invoice to bhamar@caliraisedled.com The first five eligible emails we receive will get free sliders, you just need to pay shipping which we will help with too. After the five free be’s we will provide discount codes to anyone else with a slider invoice, no limit.

    Thank you to the Toyota community for everything you have done for us and also to the other companies who have stepped up to help. If anyone has any questions please let us know how we can help!

    Here is a link to our sliders for anyone to take a look: https://caliraisedled.com/collections/rock-sliders
     
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  20. Sep 17, 2018 at 4:32 PM
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    Good on you guys. Have a couple of your lights and service has been great!
     
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