Bilstein 5100 w/ OME 885

I would be pairing the 885 with 5100 which is why I posted in this thread. I apologize for any redundancy but I haven’t been able to find any information of how much down travel I can expect to have with this setup.

 

I would be pairing the 885 with 5100s which is why I posted in this thread. I apologize for any redundancy, but I haven’t been able to find any information on how much down travel I can expect to have with this setup.

 

No worries. If you want an exact measurement, go remove your current spring/shock setup and cycle your suspension up and down. Uptravel is limited, or should be, by your bumpstop. Down travel is limited by the geometry of the UCA, spindle, and LCA working in coordination. You will get a little more down travel with a longer spring over stock. And removing the sway bar will allow it to articulate independent of the other side.

 

Sorry for asking so many questions, I’m just trying to gain a better understanding. So if factory travel is around 8 inches, does that mean installing 885/5100 gives me more travel in addition to that 8” or am I maintaining that 8” and sacrificing down travel for uptravel/lift?

 

Also, with UCA and LCA being a limiting factor in travel, would going to a uniball UCA increase travel?

 

You'll get more by approximately the difference in spring heights. It might be divided by 2 or a little less.

I'm pretty sure uniball UCAs only position the attachment location forward in the wheel well (to allow for positive caster gains) and are not physically larger from a triangulation perspective. So, no.

 

@FlatBlack_ with our front suspension, you’re limited in overall travel by upper and lower ball joints as well as the CV. Changing to the 5100/885 set up only changes ride height and a little bit of overall travel is gained. With an extended coilover, you’re MAYBE gaining 1/2” of extra downtravel. It’s just a little spacer inside the coilover that’s removed, and that is what allows more downtravel (but a negligible amount).

Swapping to uniball UCA/LCA won’t gain you any additional travel. Their benefit is strength.

 

Thank you good sir, I have learned something new today.

 

You're much more articulate and succinct than I am today.

 

Refer to EST's post since he states it better than me

 

This is very useful information. For some reason I was under the impression that extended C/O provided an extra 1-2” of travel. Good to know.

 

My questions are all over the place so I don’t blame you haha. I appreciate your help.

 

Are there any advantages, other than price, which justify a decision to pair OME coils with 5100s rather than the OME 90000 or 90021? If not, delay the project by a month or two, save money, and buy the OME coilovers (struts and springs) already assembled with the driver's side 5mm spacer installed with the top mount hardware. Otherwise, I'm very interested in any opinions that rank 5100s over the OME nitrochargers in terms of handling, travel, quality, warranty, etc....

 

The OME nitrochargers are a larger shock, so I would think they’re a bit stronger and can handle a bit more abuse. Another advantage is the 90000 are valved to handle more weight, and would pair nicely with the 886 coils (that’s my set up).

 

Right, but I don't see any advantages to having 5100s instead of OMEs, except for the price factor. I referred to this thread a few days ago when trying to decide between OME and 5100. I went with OME 90021 up front and the 60091 in back. Initially I chose to go with the 60091 over the 5100 rear because I'm also replacing my stock leafs with OME Dakars, and I understand the regular 5100s don't accommodate the extra height resulting from the Dakars. I became aware of the longer 5100 rear offering but said screw it and ordered the OMEs all around. The 5100/885 is a very popular pairing, but I'm just not seeing any advantages other than price. Thanks.

 

Oh I thought you were asking about the other way around. You are correct that the only advantage is the price factor as far as I'm aware.

 

And the lack of clunks. My next set will be 5100s. F nitrochargers, I've blown through too many.

 

If you are so keen on travel and down travel, remove your sway bar. I guarantee you your front suspension with 885/5100 and total chaos without a swaybar will give you plenty of “droop”. In fact.. possibly more droop than a guy who has $1500 extended travel KING coiloversWITH his swaybar still attached. As mentioned, mid travel or extended travel is an extra .5 inches. Long travel is where you gain extra inches and it’s a very very very costly endeavor.

 

That is something I will have to consider. I definitely don’t think I’ll be going LT, as awesome as that would be. With Mid Travel only giving an extra 0.5”, I’m leaning towards 5100/885 or maybe 6112. Then I can put the extra money I would have spent on C/Os into other mods

 

@singletrack_ftw I was scrolling through the 6112 thread and noticed you had posted in there and were considering getting those. Any reason you went 885/5100 instead? I am looking at both and was curious on what your deciding factor was.