LED Lighting Conversion

silasvirus82 -
ok that all makes sense now. So far in terms of light output far & wide and white light we found our HID do all 3 well vs many LEDs but of course cannot say it for every single model.

The only thing we see sometimes with LEDs due to them having a static diode setup only facing in 2 different directions vs 360 it sometimes more concentrated down the road or on the side vs both wide and far. But we have not tested every model we again cannot say this is true for every single LED on the market in projectors.

Thanks for the clarification.

Thanks for the info. You seem to have an email chain with the deAuto team according to them. But they did not mention HIDs. Can you ask them to send you a HID kit to try against your LEDs? They have a new brighter power H7 that works great with the 35w ballast. 55W is not good - it over-stresses the HID and just kill the brightness quickly so you will end up with less output than a 35w HID setup.

 

There are sub-par products of all types, but the lumen output of HID headlight is going to be far greater than LED drop in, every time. So if it is designed correctly, HID should easily outperform LED. I've run @XenonDepot Philips H11 HIDs in the 3rd Gen projector and there is no comparison in output, they are 3.8x brighter than the LEDs with superior pattern and hotspot compared to the LEDs. Not surprising being that the HID capsule is an omnidirectional light source with significantly more output vs an lower output LED which is offset from the designed location in a bi-directional light source that does not uniformly light the projector's internal reflector.

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I do not have an H7 setup. I built a 3rd Gen mock front end with the OEM H11 projector headlights to run some tests. I would not recommend 55w HID headlights for a variety of reasons.

 

Thanks.

They have the H11 HID kit and would be great to compare it to the one you have now - please email them so they can get you setup as they know you have their LED which is not for the projectors.


I also saw this:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/why-leds-should-not-be-run-in-halogen-reflectors.454371/

You should try the deAutoLED LEDs for reflectors. Ask them about the H11 HID and H4 LED for reflectors.

 

This is good timing I need some LEDs lol. So do you have any interior LEDs that aren’t very bright? I like the LED color but I like the dimness of the stock bulbs.

 

Yes. The model they sell now are the stage 3 and very bright but they also have a less intense model too - if you email Support@deAutoLED.com they can get you setup with the less intense model.

Thanks

 

Honestly I'm a noob regarding all these lights. I like the first page; here's what you need, here's some links, and here's some pics... It's pretty much the whole shebang right there for me. @deAutoLED.com you're right though...the other stuff from 2016 is outdated...It would be totally cool if you copied the first page info and included the updated items with links to your products so I/People could quickly impulse buy everything needed for their Tacoma Website didn't seem to help much in that regard. I don't mind doing research and putting the pieces together, but it's after midnight and I'm nodding off... I'll check back tomorrow and figure all this craziness out

 

@B4U2D0

Here is everything neatly linked/video:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/led-lighting-conversion.436865/page-174#post-18829710

The only thing I missed was the license plates - that is here - you need the 194 model - that was tested also to work:
http://deautokey.com/product/univer...right-error-free-fits-many-vw-and-audi-models

Side markers are 194 - amber and white:
http://deautokey.com/product/universal-error-free-side-marker-leds-amber-or-white

And 3rd brake light - that is a custom 194 they have a bright model but no listing but you can email them Support@deAutoLED.com for the 3rd brake light.

I'll update the other thread.

 

Yeah I guess everything is pretty much there. Guess i need to go to sleep, haha... Got some stuff to parse through in the morning. Thanks for the update, y'all rock

 

Yeah you are right. It is a bit messy/wordy.

Here it all is again.

Many of the LEDs can be quickly found here and new ones added almost daily:
http://deautokey.com/category/shop-by-car-model-toyota-tacoma-all-years-trims

H11 Fog LEDs:
http://deautokey.com/product/led-headlight-fog-cree-led-bulb-with-ballast-1800-lumen

H9 High BEAM LEDs on drop down it is H9:
http://deautokey.com/product/h15-da...00-plug-play-fits-many-volkswagen-audi-models

HID Low Beams H11 Listing:
http://deautokey.com/product/35w-slim-digital-ac-canbus-ballast-h7-h8-h11-h15-9006

If your car has 7440 front turns that can be found here - very bright error free (this is not the 7443 model and will be out at the end of the month):
http://deautokey.com/product/universal-front-turn-signal-leds-fits-all-car-models

Complete interior LED kit - very very bright no errors (they have a less intense model also - now added on the listing):
http://deautokey.com/product/complete-interior-led-kit-for-toyota-tacoma-3rd-gen-2016

Bright reverse LEDs:
http://deautokey.com/product/bright-15-chip-reverse-leds-194-921-wedge-error-free-fits-toyota-tacoma

Bright error free 7443 red model for brake/tails:
http://deautokey.com/product/universal-brake-tail-leds-fits-all-car-models

License plate LEDs - 194:
http://deautokey.com/product/univer...right-error-free-fits-many-vw-and-audi-models

Side markers are 194 - amber and white:
http://deautokey.com/product/universal-error-free-side-marker-leds-amber-or-white

3rd brake is here - it is on the drop down:
http://deautokey.com/product/universal-brake-tail-leds-fits-all-car-models

 

@deAutoLED.com Yeah that looks great, I'll have to drop the order later today, thanks a lot.

 

What is the difference with the 9012 models you speak of compared to the current LEDs out on the market? I'm looking to compare some HIDs to my Hikari LEDs but curious to what these 9012s are that you speak of.

 

Sorry for the confusion. It is for a different car/headlight that another member matt636 was asking about and the deAuto Team happened to have a 9012 projector LED setup in the works so they are going to offer that he test it in his wife's car from the last update I received so it has nothing to do with the Tacoma so sorry about taking it slightly off-topic there.

 

The Hikari LEDs have a significantly narrower LED cross section than your H11 reflector based LEDs, they produce a more intense hot spot and have better distance projection than the deAutoLEDs. While the Hikaris are the best performing LED product I have seen in a reflector, they still produce excessive glare in a reflector. The changes in geometry from using a horizontally offset bi-directional LED are not compatible with a halogen reflector. The only reason it works in the projector, is because the projector light shield cleans up the glare.

Post from earlier on their glare, compared to a higher output halogen:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/led-lighting-conversion.436865/page-151#post-18006593

So despite testing many different LED products, the thread title still stands. But the results are not the same for a projector where the LEDs seem to do better.

Your LED design needs to have a smaller cross section than Hikari, which is 2.2mm.

Your team has pinged me on the HIDs.

 

Are you referring to the reflector or projectors? Those LEDs are not for the projectors and they have the brighter HID for the Tacoma Projectors. They told me they'd email you to prevent confusion here as I am not suggesting any LEDs for projectors but rather the HID that you have not tried.

But I was suggesting the H4 LED for a reflector housing not H11. Your other reflector thread has H4 LEDs [ https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/why-leds-should-not-be-run-in-halogen-reflectors.454371/ ]. Can you please explain better to avoid confusion here? Thank you

 

These are not your product, they are reflector fog housing tests in fogs for the Hikari. And Hikari has done better at emulating a halogen than any other LED I have seen, yet they still produce glare.

The Opt7s in that thread are a now dated design but they were wildly popular on the forum at the time, they produce excessive glare due to lack of glare guards. Many new more modern designs have come out since then with better placed LEDs and inclusion of glare guards. Though most I have tried still produce excessive glare.

 

Yup. That is all true and well said @crashnburn80 - the deAutoLED fog LED doesn't cause glare in the reflectors and has a clean cut-off - I'm referencing the H11 LED linked above - photo of the h11 in reflectors is attached (Atlas VW Model but it uses the same bulb and reflector housing is similar - another member here has them and can see if they can take some photos in a Tacoma but so good only good feedback)

It is important to have a good LED that won't glare and stay low and wide where they need to be on the road:

 

Hey sorry, Rob!! I am just now seeing this. Really sorry, did the questions get worked out already.

 

Thanks for posting. This is very interesting. All of us here are always looking for the best on the market and the "Next Gen" of awesome when it comes to lighting. There is a small handfull on this thread including myself which have tested many different brands of light directly on the tacoma to come up with whats thought to be the best as of today. I'd be interested in comparing.

Again, thanks for sharing!

 

Thanks for your reply. Please email Support@deAutoLED.com and they can help you with this. They see Hikari was mentioned a few times and their H11 LEDs have more of a design for reflectors to project like a reflector but be brighter which really works well in providing the most usable light on the road. But they still feel HID is best for the projectors and provides the most light output when you are using the right model - the endless EBAY/AMAZON HIDs have tested poorly in terms of brightness and if you have those our HID will be a lot brighter. If you email the team they'd like to work with you.

Thank you

 

Hey, thanks again. I just sent them an email. I'd really like to do a solid side by side comparison and see real results. Let's see what they say.