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TRD, EBC or Hawk brakes?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by beavis87, Jan 13, 2018.

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TRD, Hawk or EBC pads and rotors?

  1. TRD pads with OEM or StopTech rotors

    32 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Hawk pads and rotors

    11 vote(s)
    17.2%
  3. EBC pads and rotors

    21 vote(s)
    32.8%
  1. Oct 4, 2018 at 3:10 PM
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    STEVON

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    crashnburn80,

    Yes, I agree that lighter wheel/tires would mean better use of the truck's other stock design parameters. Engine power, gearing, braking, suspension control and alignment issues. I had taller/heavier tires once and the handling, acceleration, fuel mileage and braking all suffered severely. After that debacle actually went to larger rims and low profile tires! performance increased exponentially. Braking issues are more of a recent problem
     
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  2. Oct 5, 2018 at 6:13 AM
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    ItalynStylion

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    I'm rolling a Sport, so no ATRAC. And I refuse to go down to a smaller tire. Right now I'm running a 34x10.5x17 KO2 and it's pretty much the perfect size. They come in at 55lbs and there's no lower rating than D.
     
  3. Oct 5, 2018 at 8:58 AM
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    ItalynStylion,

    Guessing big brake kit is your only solution, I wouldn't expect the barely adequate stock brake setup to do anything extraordinary in your application. My crewcab 4 door Prerunner came with the smaller drums in back! cheap and light as possible from the factory all in the name of cost savings and gas mileage!

    I hope you changed the stock diff gearing for those bad boys! " I'm running a 34x10.5x17 KO2 "
     
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  4. Oct 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM
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    I used wagner stuff from rock auto, works like any other brake ive felt lol
     
  5. Oct 5, 2018 at 9:34 AM
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    4.56 baby! It was necessary. Truck was a total pig without them!
     
  6. Oct 5, 2018 at 9:36 AM
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    That actually isn't bad for the tire size. Your running a narrow tire, not E load, and AT instead of MT. So weight savings options staying in that size are going to be minimal. It is hard to tell in your picture but looks like you are running sport wheels. The TRD 17" 4runner SEMA wheels are a few pounds lighter but overall savings would be very small and weight savings at the wheel isn't as great as at the tire.

    Your best bet would be the semi-metalic pads for a small improvement, or the big brake kit for a more noticeable one.
     
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  7. Oct 5, 2018 at 3:48 PM
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    when its time for me to change, I'll stick with Toyota pads and go with the cryo treated slotted stop tech rotors.
     
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  8. Oct 5, 2018 at 4:02 PM
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    I put the EBC brake kit off Amazon with the green pads and slotted rotors. After about 4000 miles the rotors are warped, still waiting on my warranty claim with EBC. Anyone else had a similar issue?
     
  9. Oct 5, 2018 at 4:12 PM
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    'Rotor warping' is often pad material transfer to the rotor. EBC Green stuff is an Organic material pad. As far as pads resistance to heat, and their heat performance goes:

    Organic<Ceramic<Semi-metallic

    Green Stuff is a very low temperature pad, and is easily overheated on a truck, especially if you have larger/heavier oversized tires. Chances are you baked off some pad material onto your rotor which now causes pulsing and vibrating when braking. I would not recommend organic pads on a truck. They have strong initial bite for a light weight car, but they do not have high heat tolerance or performance for a heavier vehicle.
     
  10. Oct 5, 2018 at 4:31 PM
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    Any idea on what the weight difference is between the two? Ive been thinking about a set of these for my truck
     
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  11. Oct 5, 2018 at 4:35 PM
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    I think @crashnburn80 states the delta on his wheel/brake thread.
     
  12. Oct 5, 2018 at 4:37 PM
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    Thanks buddy:thumbsup:
     
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  13. Oct 5, 2018 at 4:43 PM
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    I list most, but the Sports are one I haven't found the official number on yet. The SEMA wheels are a great choice though, they push the stock width tires right out to the edge of the fender and are only 25lbs.
     
  14. Oct 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM
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    Thank you for the info, I did not know that. What brake and rotor combo would you recommend?
     
  15. Oct 5, 2018 at 5:03 PM
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    Thats what i was thinking, im trying to keep my wheels and tires as light as possible
     
  16. Oct 5, 2018 at 5:24 PM
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    Ignore that response, I found the thread you made on brakes.
     
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  17. Oct 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM
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    Got the new rotors and TRD pads installed. Did the break in bedding procedure. Way better braking! back to stock feel! Truck used to "slide" on the last ten feet with me straining hard on the pedal to actually stop. Truck is used as a commuter vehicle (empty, no load) Now brakes grab overall better than before and at the last ten feet the "sliding" feeling is gone. The truck will never brake tight like my Hybrid Ford Fusion or other modern cars, but I feel safer now.

    I don't think the extra money spent for the "premium high carbon" rotors was necessary. I believe the TRD pads did the trick. We'll see about the dusting and the longevity of this setup.
     
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  18. Oct 15, 2018 at 4:53 PM
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    Update,

    Yeah there definately is more black dust on the front wheels now.

     
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  19. Oct 15, 2018 at 7:47 PM
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    Dang, that was quick!
     
  20. Nov 4, 2018 at 7:35 PM
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    Been running Brakeperformance.com slotted/dimpled rotors and EBC yellow stuff on my truck for over a year now with zero issues in all situations and I run my truck like a super car(just not as fast...). Have used brakeperformance rotors on all my Audi's and now the truck and never had warping or cracking. EBC pads are awesome if you don't mind 2 things, squeaky brakes for a few thousand miles or when its super cold and the dust. The performance destroys any other company I have seen out there without going into the super high end while cutting into your retirement funds.
     
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