Doing some homework for 35s

So I'm moving up from 33s, to 35s and I know ill need a substantial CMC, Hammer the firewall, cut some more, push the caster forward, Re-gear to 5.29s, and a lift.
My question is with the suspension. seems like most are in the 3" lift range. Ill be doing this in stages so It'll be easier on my bank account and ill be doing the lift first.

For those that have moved up to 35s, what suspension are you running?
My truck isn't loaded with much weight other than front skids and sliders and I generally enjoy the current ride for the TRD O/R suspension so id like to keep it somewhat near that. I was looking to find a kit thats good and cheap ok, ok, not CHEAP, best bank for your buck kind of thing. 2k or less if possible. I was looking at ICON kits, would this suffice?
https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p282/ICON_Stage_2_Suspension_Kit_-_K53002.html

I'm open to any suggestions

 

Cheap and 35s sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I wouldn’t want my suspension to be the cheapest component of the setup… also if you are going 3” you’ll need upper control arms.

 

well he squeezed 33's on what he said was the OR suspension so i'm intrigued. lol

must have done lots of cutting already unless there's more to it than this post.

 

Doesn't really matter what suspension you run, unless you limit your bump travel you will be doing a lot of cutting. I'm on 37s, and the front may be sased, but the rear is just running basic mid travel fox shocks and all pro standard leaf pack. Just have to cut a lot of fender.
Check out @deeezy build thread. He fit 37s on an ADS lift. Second gens, but it's pretty much the same.

 

If you just took off all the fenders, you could run 40s on the stock suspension. Sounds like the most cost effective option to me
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Can’t dissagree with that.. so something like this? https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/s...003T_with_Delta_Joint_Upper_Control_Arms.html

Skinny’s lol, they’re 255/85.

So you have two different setups from front and rear?

 

go with 285/75r18's they're not even 11.5" wide, so will make fitting a ton easier.

 

@K_Sandhu school em

 

Well yeah. both are solid axle. But King 12" 2.5 dual rate coilovers up front, and fox mid travel in the rear. Nothing wrong with it.

 

I did consider something smaller, and not a true 35 but I’d like to keep the wheel size at 17s.

 

I just don’t understand suspension systems lol

 

dude it's 34.9 if you think you're going to notice a tenth of an inch you're crazy.

34.9 is bigger than most companies claimed 35's anyways. sometimes the metric tire sizes are bigger than the standards. one companies 35 is only 34.5" where another companies is 35.5"

 

In theory you can run 35s on stock suspension. lift =/= clearance (except maybe on a flat road in a straight line).

 

I'm on 35s on ADS fronts. What you really need to make sure you get right is the upper control arms. You want as much positive caster as possible. If you can't get at least 3*, no amount of cmc is going to be enough to clear you on the street. Any of the big 4 suspensions will get you the lift you need up front, and pretty much any leaf pack in the rear will get you there. Cmc as far back as you possibly can, hammer the hell out of the pinch weld, then when you think it's done, hammer it some more.

You'll also want to take your fender liners out and cut your flares/fenders if you wheel at all, otherwise stuff will rub hard. Be mindful that your intake is exposed with the fender liner gone. You'll need to hammer a few spots in the wheel well upward to clearance as well- you'll find them pretty fast cause the paint will rub off.

As far as gears, free advice- drive the truck without gears first. I have a manual so 4.30s and it's perfectly driveable, and I have a fair bit of weight. Just cause the hype train says get gears doesn't mean get gears. They're expensive and a huge investment. I also wouldn't go higher than 4.88s without alot of weight unless you never take your truck on the highway.

Feel free to pm me any questions, I've gone through all of this recently. Also, take a hard look at your motivation for doing it. It's really not for the faint hearted. You'll hate steering the truck cause our racks aren't strong enough for 35s, all the tire choices are loud and expensive AF, and the spare doesnt fit anywhere. I probably wouldn't do it all again if I knew what I was getting myself into- but I'm happy as a clam that I did cause the truck looks badass and is a monster on the trails!

 

I think you're confusing two points. Lift doesn't give you ground clearance, but it absolutely gives you clearance to fit bigger tires (which do give you ground clearance). If you lift the frame with the suspension, then problem spots for clearance, like the cab mount, raise up above the widest part of the tires, which gives you more room when turning before you rub.

 

Just put a drop bracket 6" lift on it if you're not going to run it hard.

 

Gotcha. I mean I don’t mind 34.9, 34.5, I know they’re never exact.. Im just not sure how i feel about 18in rims lol. But figment wise it definetly does sound appealing. 18in rims would probably have more tire options too right?

 

Its the same amount of side wall as any other 28/75 rim variation and they get off road a lot in the 16" rim size.

 

To be honest the one thing that makes me sad about all of this is cutting the fenders. I like the black flares
Thanks a lot! That was really helpful. I find it interesting that you wouldn’t do it over again.. I made a fully tracked 370z once and by the end of it I hated it because it was a stiff, loud, and shitty street car. Ill consider 34s, might be a lot easier to deal with and possibly easier on the steering rack?

 

Not confused, that's why I said on a flat road in a straight line. When you're at full stuff you'll be right back at the same point you were before your lift. If you're not wheeling, then sure, add some big ass bump stomps so you limit and reduce your uptravel, but then you'd have less capabilities than you did pre-lift.

That's why lifting doesn't equal clearance for tires. Thats why if you chop enough, you could fit 35's on stock suspension.