LED Lighting Conversion

HID looks brighter

 

See the measured output under the lux reading, it is far brighter.

 

Do the Lumiled Hikaris put out more light compared to the XD?

 

Yes. Though they use active cooling with fans which allow for higher output. Personally not a big fan of microprocessor fans in the engine bay to cool lights when passive cooling technologies are available.

 

Looks wise I'll take the one on the right.

 

If you are talking color temp, you can get higher color temp HID bulbs. Performance drops slightly but is still far more output than LED.

 

If your dead set on LED, then yes the Xenon Depot is by far the best out on the market at this time for use in the projector housing of the 3rd gen Tacoma.

Sorry, correction to the above ^. Hikari Phillips Lumiled is still the best on the market as of the moment and XenonDepot is second best. @RobP62 has some good info on the XD's though.

I have some LED product from deAutoLED that are more designed for the reflector housing such as fog lights and high beams. I'm currently testing those and they surprisingly, have great performance and light output just seeing them from the initial look. I haven't tested extensively enough yet to talk more about it though.

If you're not against HID and that's still on the table. I'd tell you to consider it. I've been running LED for a year now which I've been more than happy with. I've been testing product for deAutoLED for the last week (pic, review, and video coming). I put in two sets of their HID's and I was blown away. The are crazy bright, very clean with an even spread of light and the throw is amazing.

I think you should consider HID, but the LED XenonDepot and Hikari you wont be disappointed in. I can say that with confidence.

Just a little sneak peak of the deAutoLED HID kit 5500k compared to the Hikari Phillips. I will be sharing a full video review in the coming weeks comparing some other lighting products from deAutoLED as well as more on the pics below.

Hikari on right deAutoLED on left


You can clearly see in the pics that you get the full effect of the projector housing with the HID's and the light intensity is much greater. I was a die hard LED fan untill I saw this for myself. deAutoLED has some very impressive lighting products.

LED TURN SIGNALS
I'd also like to mention for those of you looking to convert your turn signals to LED. deAutoLED as true led turn signals that DO NOT REQUIRE RESISTORS. I actually had to remove the resistors I had installed for my other LED turn signals for these to work. These LED front turn signals ive tested over the past week from deAutoLED are by far the brightest I've ever seen or used out of two other brands I've tired. They aren't just a little brighter, they are full blown another level. I was shocked and was like a little girl in a candy store lol these bulbs are amazing and hands down the best on the market that I've seen.

They offer them in 7440 and 7443 dual function. I have WinJet taillights so I cant test the rear brake and turn signals, but the front signals tell me enough that those will be just as great. Video on that will also be coming soon

 

do we need the PWM module for the lows??

 

I know, I would like to go up to 5000K or 5500K just for the looks. I suppose I could try and sell my Phillips 4300K.

 

Not true. The Hikari Philips LEDs do better in the projector than Xenon Depot and deAutoLED. The Hikaris are brighter (they have active cooling) and their LED cross section is smaller making the beam better focused so you do not lose your hot spot concentration to the same extent as you do with other LED products, meaning they have better distance projection. People always comment about 'loss of throw' with LEDs. The Hikaris do the best job about reducing loss of throw. Now I'm not saying the Hikaris are a quality product, because I think they are a cheap one. But in basic design, theirs works best.
Edit: deAutoLED says these specific LEDs are not intended for a projector.

No drop in LED product is correctly designed for a forward facing reflector housing. Many companies make this claim just like deAutoLED. I think it would help to understand how this works. If you move the filament off center as you do with LEDs you change the geometry and it causes glare and loss of distance projection. The best thing you can do is make the LED cross section smaller, and the Hikaris are much smaller than DeAutoLED. Hikaris are 2.2mm across on the LEDs vs deAutoLED is 3.8. Might not seem like much but the halogen filament is much smaller than either of those, and to make lighting optics improve in a halogen light assembly, you shrink the light source further. Performance halogens use smaller tighter wound coils than standard halogens, because making the light source smaller drives better focus and distance projection. World leading lighting companies like Philips and Osram focus on shrinking their filaments even smaller to achieve better focus and more intense hot spots and can extend distance projection 2.5x with a stock wattage halogen bulb. If shrinking a filament fractions of a millimeter smaller makes a 2.5x increase in distance projection, adding millimeters to the cross section does the exact opposite. This is the root of why LEDs "lack throw". That and non-uniform lighting of the housing, but smaller cross section does better there too. So if you are looking for best performance to address the lack of throw issue, you want the smallest cross section possible and so far that is the Hikaris.

Fog reflectors
DeAutoLED left vs H9 halogen right (halogen is 2x brighter than stock with no glare)




You can see that the "LEDs designed for reflectors" still have glare. You'll note deAutoLED makes the same claim for putting HIDs in reflectors as well, which is well documented to cause glare.

If you want to put LEDs in the fogs, you need to replace the entire housing with is one that is designed for an LED light source.

HIDs are drastically superior in output, no comparison. Being a bulb their light source is in the same location as the halogen filament producing a better hotspot for better distance projection than LEDs. The light source however is not the same as a halogen filament so there is still a compromise being made in focus compared to the halogens the housings were designed for.

DeAutoLED does a good job in testing their products in all the vehicles to ensure they work without errors or resisters before advertising compatibility. Note though that overly bright tail lights are not your friend. In another lighting thread someone posted pictures of someone that had done this in an Audi. The tail lights were so bright they were hard to look at following the vehicle, basically blinding the person behind you. And when they braked it was even worse. Not exactly a good idea to blind the person following you.

No, the tacoma does not use pulse width modulation, so you don't need the module to correct for it.

 

Well....Thanks Ryland lol I've learned to not argue with "the scientist". I'll just consult you before I post in the future.

 

Kinda late to the discussion and I haven't read all the posts, but I thought I would throw in my wooden nickels worth. I have a '17. I have had Kensun HID's in my low beams, 5k, and OEDRO LED's in my highs for about a year. I live in Missouri and did some checking on what the light laws were before install. I suppose I was lucky in that my lows were within what the law says and have never been flashed. I really like the extra output compared to the stock halogens.
With my OEDRO highs I picked these:
https://www.amazon.com/Headlight-Co...pID=51gI3zfOp5L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

I picked them because of what I read in the forums here, I thought that the small profile of the 4 sided LED would "mimic" as close as possible what a filament would do. Also, since I am assuming that i would not be driving around with my high beams on all the time, I would avoid any potential longevity, heat, etc. problems using them. I will admit that without question that I wished the throw was a bit better. That is not a complaint just a personal observation. I thought about swapping them in the projectors/lows, but have never done it. Mainly because I would be switching them back as soon as I saw what they would look like.
And just FYI, I did not put in a relay in my HIDs. A second or two of warmup and they are good to go.

 

Thanks for this post. Do not be confused what @crashnburn80 has is NOT what the deAutoLED team is selling for that area and we are all unsure why that information was posted when it is not made for that housing. We hope he can contact the team as there are emails that say it was not meant for that area of the Tacoma. I feel it is a misunderstanding but hopefully can be cleared up soon.

Cashnburn80 is not testing the right bulb in the right area and making claims that are false unfortunately.

This is a false statement by Crashnburn80:
"You'll note deAutoLED makes the same claim for putting HIDs in reflectors as well, which is well documented to cause glare.

If you want to put LEDs in the fogs, you need to replace the entire housing with is one that is designed for an LED light source."

We never made any claims for the Tacoma. We have other HID that are NOT the full size model tested in other models to work without glare.

You never tested or have any of these products or experience with them so the comment doesn't make sense so we have to point it out as false.

We now wonder about motive as another member messaged us saying he is trying to sell entire housings for fogs himself so it could be a reason why he is making these comments and statements we never seen with any customer and our product.

You can try our LED fogs for yourself - more light on the sides and no glare.

 

@deAutoLED.com please do not worry about the response from crashnburn80. I can tell you that the lights that you all sent to me for testing and comparing to the other LED headlights and lighting products on the market are by far, very impressive. I'm very impressed with the results I've gotten so far and will be sharing pictures and videos as soon as I have all of my data together.

You all have been great so far and the customer service has been A+. Keep up the good work and keep those awesome lighting products coming

 

Ok thanks. The team just wanted me to clear this up as he received an old model in July and was told it was not meant for that model. They were receiving emails and why they asked me to take time to make this clear. What you reviewed is what they are currently selling.

Thanks again for your time and effort in testing these products. I can say that the turns are insane. I have a set in my car and they are the brightest I ever seen.

it is the 7440 model - they do not have the 7443 out yet but they will soon:
http://deautokey.com/product/universal-front-turn-signal-leds-fits-all-car-models


The H11 HID kit will not bounce and are very bright. They are out of stock but it is a good time to get in on them and it will ship late this week or early the following. I promise it is 100% worth the wait:
http://deautokey.com/product/35w-slim-digital-ac-canbus-ballast-h7-h8-h11-h15-9006

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Not dead set on only LED anymore. After quite some reading here, I think the HID/LED combo will get me where I want to get the best of both types.

In order to get the ability to instant flash my high beams, and don't want to blind everyone, I'll do XD H11 HID for LB, XD H9 LED for HB, and I might splurge and get the KC G4 fog lights.

With this setup, my concern is making sure i get the same color on all three lights.

 

So I put in the XD LED's last week. As the time has gone on, I'm very happy with them. I realize they are probably not projecting as far down the road as the halogens were, but where they shine is when the roads are wet. I was very unhappy with the stock halogens in the rain. I actually hopped out of my truck one time to see if the stock headlights were on, thats when I decided I needed to do something about it. Using the LED's in the same conditions I noticed they actually light up the road, huge improvement.

The other thing I notice is how far down the road the street signs pop. I don't know if it's just the signs they use where I live, or if they are everywhere.. You literally can't miss a sign, it's like they are lit up. On the halogens, they are very difficult to see for me.

I've been testing the temperature of the bases to make sure they aren't getting too hot. It's cooler here right now, but noticed they are in the 90's or so after 30 minutes of driving. Being how they didn't have a fan, I was curious to see how well they kept cool. I'll continue to monitor as they are on longer and in 6 months when we have warmer temps, lol.

 

Hi!

I just installed the complete interior lighting kit I bought from you guys. I’m very satisfied with the light output. See photos below.

Only issue I am having is there is a slight buzz from the LEDs for a few seconds whenever they turn on or off. Is that normal?

Thanks for your response.


BEFORE




AFTER

 

Remove the screws and tilt it towards the rear of the truck a bit. You don't have to remove it completely.

 

Nice job. You can raise the lights a little for more throw. Pull about 20 or 30 feet from a wall and mark the cutoff. Then start with 2" and take a test drive. This can be done at any Walmart if yo don't have the room at home. My LEDs never got over 95 in the heat of the day in full sun.