Buyobuyo's Build Thread

So you know, I may have got 1 short call from them. They installed the standard tabs, not the deep tabs, and the tab can be rotated down a lot more, as pictured in my install instructions. I wasn't there installing it, so I don't know if there was interference, but it looks like they know nothing about suspension and can't read instructions. One thing to note is the Camburg kit puts the springs outboard farther than stock, reducing room for the shock tabs

Also, with the resi back so far, I'm worried the shackle might hit the resi under droop.

 

Well... I just took another look under the truck and there's no way that they could have rotated the shock tab farther down because of the u-bolt plate under the spring. To rotate any farther down would require notching the shock tab or u-bolt plate for clearance.

 

I see that now. My SUA conversion design might be able to fix that as mine only has the u-bolts (9/16) down the side of the spring and they are tight to the spring, but you would have to weld a perch on top of the axle to support my u-bolt plate. Then the axle tab can be rotated down, and you have some bump travel.

 

Thanks for the info. I'll definitely think about it. I don't want to keep pissing away money, but I'd like for things to be correct.

 

They told me that I could pay them and then get my bumps and stuff arranged how I WANTED if I paid more. I would rather pay a different shop the money to fix their stuff, its a slap in the face for me to consider coming back to IPOR knowing I wasn't satisfied to begin with, and obviously the whole community figured out their boner of an install in like 3 seconds.

 

Yeah. I can understand that. This is blatantly wrong and not installed correctly. If they try to pull that on me, I'll call and stop payment with my CC. Either way, I'm going to call the CC to see what my timeframe is and if there's any specific documentation that they need.

 

Honestly man, I would call the credit card company first and get that in your back pocket before letting IPOR know. I have no idea the process with the CC, but if you can have them in your favor in the event IPOR tries any shit, then bam you retain the upper hand. From what I saw, it would be great if you were able to deny them some of the payment unless they made it completely right.

Sucks to know I got screwed, but I will feel better if they don't screw you over too.

So did archive confirm the towers and stuff are incorrect? I bet if burg chimes in with their thoughts in a less than positive way...then yea man that's a go alright.

 

I called the CC for info on the process right after I posted. Basically, I just have to call them and tell them that I want to dispute the charges. If they need any extra supporting info they'll notify me by mail and IPOR has 60 days to make it right. I told the CC rep that I was going to wait until I was able to talk to IPOR to see if they're going to make it right.

Yeah. Pretty much. I can see where the issues came from that caused them to install it the way that they did. However, it isn't right, and they should have known that and notified me of the issue. Heck, a few photos and Eric has a possible solution, so there's no reason a solution couldn't have been found while they had my truck.

 

Def sucks man to be out almost two months and know that your ride is installed the way it is. I sort of wished I had done similar with my install as I think I paid the whole thing at the end and then a week later saw the issues. They really need to learn to be in communication with their customers in the event that anything looks weird. They must have had some crazy customers in the past to develop this "ghosting" during the install.

So is the burg kit not installed right either?

 

Sorry to hear about all this shit Jeremy! I am confident they will get i squared away for you.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

 

Yeah. It's definitely odd.

Honestly, I'm not sure about the Camburg kit. There really isn't anyone on here running it, and there's only one picture on their website that shows the shackle position. In that picture, the shackle is forward of vertical and mine is sitting rearward of vertical.

Their's:


Mine:

Thanks for the offer. Hopefully, it doesn't get to the point that an attorney is needed.

 

I hope so, too! Truck still looks pretty sweet, by the way.

 

If you jack up one side of your axle to where the tire wants to tuck into the fender does it shift forward on the hanger? Did you call iron pig or hear from burg today?

 

Chris is this something, as Archeive stated, that can or could be corrected by welding a perch on the axel tube? I don't know or will pretend to know anything about these setups but hate to see Jeremy taken like this. Is this something that can be fixed or something Iron Pig should correct. I'm still a little confused as listening to you guys in the past I was to believe these guys specialized in this stuff

 

I would def see what iron pig can do, but the burg set up should be bolt on so hopefully that should be in alignment. That said I’m not totally sure what you are referencing to. But yea man this situation pisses me off too.

 

post 183 Archeive reffers to needing to weld a perch to the axel to apply his product and it should correct whatever the issue is. I am a firm believer in the vendor makeing his work correct at this point though understanding you obviously had similar issues with them can they be trusted to do so. In the mean time Jeremy is stuck with a product he paid, I'm sure, quite a bit for and it isn't correct.

 

I’m sure whatever archive recommends should be considered, but I’m not the best reference for this set up.

 

Not sure what you're asking about with something shifting in the hanger . If I jack up a tire, the spring will compress which will angle the shackle farther back.

I didn't hear back from Camburg yesterday, and I want to hear from them before I contact IPOR. If I don't get an email today, I'll call them when I get off work.

Archive is referring to the u-bolt setup for his SUA kit. His kit uses 2 plates to sandwich the axle and spring. One typically sits on the factory spring perch, and something would need to be welded on the top of the axle to support that plate because the Camburg kit moves the springs out farther than factory, and it wouldn't be completely supported.

 

I got an email back from Camburg yesterday. The photo on their website that shows the shackles angle with the truck on the ground is a custom setup on one of their race trucks that runs shorter springs. That means that my shackles are sitting in the correct position.

I still think that the passenger side spring looks like it's leaning in toward the center of the truck. I jacked the truck up yesterday evening, pulled the wheels and drooped the suspension to take more pictures. I discovered that the spring perches aren't welded in the same place on both sides. There's 3/8 inch difference between the two sides. On both sides there was a little bit of a lip of the machined surface where the bearing bolts up that I hooked the tape measure.

They also used gobs of red loctite when they bolted on my wheel spacers. They didn't return the instruction sheet, but I'm pretty sure Bora says not to use any loctite.

Driver side spring perch (4 3/4")

Passenger side spring perch (4 3/8")

 

Hmmm that is weird to have that sort of inconsistency. Whats the plan going forward? Im relieved to know that the burg kit is installed in a relatively good fashion as man that would suck if it wasn't.