1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

The trailer is 890 dry, with the battery, inverter, toolbox, etc. I expect to put it at about 1,000. I'd be surprised if my tools weigh more than 50 pounds, and horns are light so I think I'm plenty generous with that remaining 150 pounds.

I'm not familiar with TC's, I have the faintest idea how they work. Can you elaborate on locking it up?

 

Who the hell quoted you $2,500? Did you give him my home city of Hayward, CA or San Francisco, CA? I know for a fact vehicles that can't move under their own power are more expensive.

 

Yeah the TC is basically two turbines, one is driven by the engine and it pushes the ATF at the other turbine which drives the trans input. This is basically forcing fluid to move things, that generates friction and friction is heat. So when the mechanical advantage is no longer needed the TC uses a clutch to lock the two turbines together mechanically rather than through fluid to cut down on heat generation. Problem is your truck has no balls so it always needs the help of this mechanical advantage and the clutch rarely locks the TC because if it did you engine wouldn't have enough power to maintain speed. So you have to either slow down to get it to lock up or you have to make the load easier to carry.

 

Slow down to get it to lock up, how would I tell if it's locked?

Easier to carry in what way? Proper weight distribution, I'd assume?

 

Easiest way is to get a feel for when it's locked. I suppose if you were really bad at feeling it you could put a light in the circuit for the lockup solenoid. I just feel it on my cruiser. Just as a habit from driving manuals I always know what gear my auto is in too and whether or not the TC is locked. Also youd have to tow almost exclusively with 1 2 and 3, turn over drive off your truck would keep trying to use it, realize it has no power and drop down to third endlessly generating even more heat. You've gotta be pretty in tune with your tow rig if your gonna tow with an auto.

 

Nothing to do with weight dirtribution really, that just makes it easier to keep the fucker in between the white lines. I'm talking regear, use smaller tires on the truck, give the engine more power.

 

Regear to what, 4.56 or 4.88?

 

someone i was recommended.

 

I'd go for 4.88 with an auto. Like I have absolutely no issues even non supercharged hauling my truck (which is 1550lbs heavier than stock and on 33s) with my manual and 4.10s but I'd like to be on 4.56s for 33s ideally. The auto eats power for breakfast and stock only expected you to have 4.30s (already trying to help its ass) and 27.8" diameter tires. I bet with 4.88 it would feel like a whole new truck, still not fast but able to move with ease. I'd say 4.30 would be perfect if it was a manual with your tires.

 

forget the regear. i'll get you a precision turbo for in exchange for the 5 lug

 

Regear sounds pricey, I know 4.88 didn't come stock on the 1st Gen. Does it help with speed?

Theoretically, let's say I drop money on an SC. How much would that help?

 

If turbo'ing cars in California was legal, it would be turbo'd already.

 

anything is legal so long as you dont get caught

 

Well I'd get caught when I have to SMOG it every two years. And no way I'm taking it off every two years.

 

Smog. meh. i had URD 02 sims on my truck for 4 years. just because i was too cheap to replace my cats. but then again we dont get the sniffer out here

 

If I find a low mileage parts truck, V6 is going in. I can get that legal through the California BAR referee.

I'm not worried about failing the sniffer, it's failing the visual inspection since there is clearly going to be a turbo where a turbo was never meant to be.

 

So i checked NADA for my cars values.

01 tacoma with 297k retail clean almost 11k
06 Avalon XL with 62k miles clean retail 7500
06 corolla with 700k clean retail 4500





Damn toyotas hold their value too well... aint no corolla need to have a 4500 retail with 700k miles.. and damn taco. yall be worth a pretty penny. Ok im done...

 

Reagear is cheaper than a 3RZ SC, and more Cali friendly. But SC would help if you dumped all the money to tune for it, would actually help quite a lot, otherwise alone untuned with none of the mods it could make things exponentially worse while towing. I can just imagine your poor truck going up a hill pushing its happy 6-8psi, pinging, retarding timing, going hard lean, and then boom ejecting parts out a new window in the block. Cause there's a lot more to using the supercharger than buying it and bolting it on with our dumb old trucks. You're in territory where if you were experienced with either towing or engine modification I'd say go ahead and chance either one of them (without first preparing) because someone with experience would know when things are going south and when they need to reevaluate. But your going into territory totally green where without knowing the warning signs you'll be going fine one minute and toasted the next. Because really even with your disadvantaged truck, 1,200lbs is doable stock for someone who knows how to monitor and drive it properly for the conditions. But I'm trying to help you avoid learning the skills by way of destruction, which involves, for lack of a better term (and in no way am I trying to offend), fool proofing. By putting a big trans cooler in, by helping yourself with gauges, by learning what gear the trans is in and whether or not it is locked, by monitoring load/speed.

And while I'm sure you can learn all about boost and engine tuning, I'm not sure learning while planning to essentially max it out while towing without proper experience there is wise. Taken me fuckloads of time on just the engine tuning part alone and I still get thrown for a loop sometimes.

 

You kidding me? To register my 5-Lug in Vermont, I have to pay a use tax which was 5% of the NADA value.

The LOW Nada Value of that 5-Lug with 450,000 miles was $5,025. They do indeed hold their value like crazy.

 

i bet that 5 lug would cost me like 20 bucks to register. lol


Also... how do i handle this no title thing but vermont.. im lost with that