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Rectified my mistake

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by LRdefector, Nov 10, 2018.

  1. Nov 14, 2018 at 10:58 AM
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    LRdefector

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    I’ve just been issued a refund from Amazon. Will try ordering this PC38 again:rolleyes:
     
  2. Nov 14, 2018 at 11:22 AM
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    You guys pooping on a PC have no idea what your talking about. "Mash the pedal faster" LOL your clueless.
    Go out to your truck and put it in neutral. Stomp pedal quickly all the way to floor and let up. Your truck hardly revved correct?
    That is the computer "smoothing out" your throttle inputs. Does not matter how fast you stomp down...engine will barely rev.
    For those of us who enjoy shifting a manual transmission actively for example a double clutch down shift with rev matching this electronic throttle smoothing/delay is retarded. The lag really takes the fun out of a 5 speed.
     
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  3. Nov 14, 2018 at 2:10 PM
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    Make sure that you order from Etailz on Amazon. They are the only authorized PC vendor on Amazon. Says so on PC's website.
     
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  4. Nov 15, 2018 at 3:48 AM
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    Yes sir! Bc I like to have that warranty...
     
  5. Nov 19, 2018 at 2:56 PM
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    i've had mine for over a month. if you have any questions let me know.
     
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  6. Nov 19, 2018 at 2:57 PM
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    if anyone has questions about these i'm thinking about making a review and answer questions.
     
  7. Nov 19, 2018 at 3:11 PM
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    I finally got my pc!
    Will install tomorrow tho
    Worked 14hr shift today
    I’m beat!
    Thx for all replies
     
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    were you able to get it on sale?
     
  9. Nov 19, 2018 at 3:16 PM
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    The one i got on sale never showed up at my house:oops:
    So i had to order one from a different vendor, that wasn’t on sale
    Ty, Usps:mad:
     
  10. Nov 22, 2018 at 3:42 AM
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    Installed it yesterday and did a few test runs. Definitely, I’ve noticed a much improved response from the throttle. It feels now like I drive a truck with an old fashioned accelerator cable .:D
    Definitely worth the price:thumbsup:
     
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  11. Nov 22, 2018 at 6:40 PM
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    And i got this:
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    So far, I love ❤️ my PC!
     
  13. Nov 23, 2018 at 6:09 AM
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    My concern with this is that this product works by increasing the voltage gain on the throttle input. On a manual there would be a risk that someone would potentially attempt to accelerate at say 30 mph in 3rd gear without shifting into 2nd. With the normal voltage change the throttle would modulate position based off the pedal position and would open as normal, with the pedal commander, with the gain increase it would ramp up the open position faster with less throttle input. So while you might not be trying to gun it, even light depression on the gas pedal would result in sending enough voltage to open the throttle to an amount that would be closer to flooring it. Basically the until would make it easier to lug and load the engine with less gas pedal depression. This could be avoided by down shifting more often, but most people wont down shift every time they need to accelerate gradually.
     
  14. Nov 23, 2018 at 7:09 AM
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  15. Nov 23, 2018 at 11:39 AM
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    Thanks. PC now $264 on their website.
     
  16. Nov 23, 2018 at 1:30 PM
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    You could lug an engine with a cable operated throttle too?
     
  17. Nov 23, 2018 at 1:39 PM
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    Never heard a newb try to take off in 2nd or 3rd thinking it was 1st? Throw marbles into a steel bowl, done.
     
  18. Nov 23, 2018 at 2:59 PM
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    With the wrong mechanical advantage, yes. Pedal commander is basically adjusting the throttle input making it possible to lug it in conditions that normal driving presents. Its not a guarantee and with a seasoned drive it can be avoided, I'm just suggesting its a risk for some of the drivers out there.
     
  19. Nov 24, 2018 at 8:48 AM
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    Not quite sure I buy it. With a stock truck you can be in 3rd gear on the verge of stalling and floor it. It will have a lil delay but the throttle body will open fully (I think) and lug the crap out of the truck...no different than a cable op throttle just delayed slightly.
     
  20. Nov 24, 2018 at 9:11 AM
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    Maybe Im misunderstanding you.. I agree with what you're saying here, so Im not sure what "you're not buying"?

    Let me try though, you can lug both the TBW and cable throttle the same way, as you're describing. The difference with TBW or electric signal and the PC is it increases the ramp up of the voltage, meaning you could achieve WOT with 50% depression (estimate used for making a point, not necessarily the amount PC adjusts). So yeah both vehicles will lug and create a scenario where knock occurs if you load the motor like you described. With the PC it would be possible to create the same throttle position with less gas input, so you could lug it possibly if you were to say increase speed at a low enough rpm. Basically it might not seem like you're gunning it because you technically wouldn't be, you'd be putting the gas down only so much but the throttle would be open wider than if stock. I'm referring to normal casual driving, I will accelerate in 2nd at speeds <10 mph in traffic, in this case the PC would either have to adjusted to stock or each time I hit the gas lightly it would result in the input being more than "lightly". Too much input at that speed would surely lug.
     

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