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Cab water leak causing possessed TPMS

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by dilbert, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:19 PM
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  2. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:21 PM
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    The new receiver didn't fix it, so they started looking at the plugs up front. The lower connectors were wet, which is probably causing the issue. I sealed it all up with silicone when I ran the wire through.

    Any idea how/where the cowling drains?
     
  3. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:27 PM
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    I tossed an edit at the end of the last post for consideration.

    I am shoot blanks for real knowledge. The only cowling drain would be the a/c line that is discussed in the sticky? There was a thread a while back about a pinhole in the cowling weld that caused a similar problem as yours. Also, I recall a thread about a poorly fitting cowling that let too much water by and overwhelmed the drain, but that usually causes issues on the passenger side.
     
  4. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:34 PM
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    FYI, since you don't have yours to look at, this is the left side area of mine where I tapped an unused connection for non-key power.

    IMG_20181025_162240.jpg

    I can see where moisture could whick upwards to bad locations.
     
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  5. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:41 PM
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    It's the lowest connector on that stack. I'm most concerned about how the water is getting in and what it looks like under the cowling. And if the grommet is exposed inside the cowling area.
     
  6. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:47 PM
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    I just took a look. The only apparent drain holes on the left side are for welded on cab reinforcements.

    Here's the thing, the Taco is soaked from todays frog choker:

    IMG_20181126_174049.jpg

    But, that grommet is dry as a bone:

    IMG_20181126_174126.jpg

    I got home only an hour ago.

    If i were to approach it as a first step, I would request proof that there is a hole in the grommet. There's is really no more damage that could be done in the area from a test.
     
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  7. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM
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    Another guess since you have a 2016, have you had any issues with your door seal? I would guess that there might be more of a problem there letting water sneak behing the seal near the kick panel?

    That would be another easy test.
     
  8. Nov 26, 2018 at 5:54 PM
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    Mine was bone dry in the engine compartment also. Spider webs and dry leaves were around it. He said it comes in when water gets in the cowling. I don't get it?
     
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    I haven't had any issues with my door seals that I'm aware of.
     
  10. Nov 26, 2018 at 6:07 PM
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    That was the area where the pin hole leak was for the other fellow.

    I would pop mine off for you, but there is not anything to really see there.

    IMG_20181126_175957.jpg

    Just the metal top.

    For me, going through the grommet was tough just going straight. Turning and forcing a hole in the side would have been near impossible. Maybe search for the grommet part number to get a look at it?

    You might want to look for any kind of evidence around the door. It might be tough with all the poking around that was going on in that area.
     
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    Is the side of that grommet exposed anywhere in the cowling or where the cowling drains? I tried finding the grommet part, but didn't have any luck.
     
  12. Nov 26, 2018 at 6:30 PM
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    Not that I can see. That upper 'shelf' of the FW seems to cover it.
     
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    Thanks for all your help. I don't understand how it's getting in there, but I just don't see how it could possibly be my wiring.
     
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    Not a problem at all!

    I completely agree. Even if you poked a hole in the grommet, it would self seal and maybe weep a bit, not soak your carpet.

    I was wondering if the grommet might have been misinstalled? There has to be a seat on the inner side that grabs each layer of the FW. After 3yrs there would be permanent witness marks on it.

    I need to be on a big screen to search for it. I'll see what I can find in the morning.
     
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  16. Nov 26, 2018 at 6:52 PM
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    I will also poke around in the service manual to see what is says about the drains, if anything.
     
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    I can't find anything in the SM about body drains (other than the sun roof) or the wire routing through the FW.

    There are a lot of harness pics on google. I just searched 'tacoma engine main harness' and had to pick through pics of the left and right harnesses.

    I believe your ECU loom looks different than mine on the right side, but I think the left side (accessories) looks the same. There are some decent pics of that:

    https://www.tlsautorecycling.com/search/2013/toyota/tacoma/349186.html

    https://www.tlsautorecycling.com/search/2012/toyota/tacoma/266461.html

    What I can't tell is what seals the grommet. It looks like there might be a plastic retainer in some pics? I really wonder if the grommet might have been misinstalled to start with?
     
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  19. Nov 27, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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    I just can't figure out how water going into the cowl would supposedly come out through that grommet inside the cab. It just has to be coming in another way.
     
  20. Nov 27, 2018 at 8:23 AM
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    I'm 100% positive it isn't possible for water from the cowling to get through this grommet from looking at this image.

    Inkedtoyota_tacoma_2017_engine_wire_harness_348250_01_LI.jpg
     
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