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belt or a chain?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by linkfeeney, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. Oct 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM
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    linkfeeney

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    i have a 09 tacoma. is it a timing belt or chain?
     
  2. Oct 1, 2008 at 7:22 PM
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    tacomaman06

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    getting there....
    you got the v6?? if so...you got a chain.
     
  3. Oct 2, 2008 at 9:10 AM
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    +1. I think you can even see it though the oil fill tube.
     
  4. Oct 2, 2008 at 9:27 AM
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    steelerfan7p

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    When is it recommended to change a time chain? Isn't it 100,000 mi?
     
  5. Oct 2, 2008 at 9:42 AM
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    uuc328

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    i am almost certian that there is a service life for the chain but most people never change them. i have had two 200K+ vehicles with chains that were never serviced
     
  6. Oct 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM
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    The four banger is a chain as well, Tsubaki I might add.
     
  7. Oct 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM
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    i have a v6.... I guess I never have to change that again uh?!
     
  8. Oct 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM
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    TacoCo

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    There isn't any mention of it in the service manual up to 120k miles at least.
     
  9. Oct 2, 2008 at 1:12 PM
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    The good thing about timing chain is that it typically won't break. Belts are another story, so you change them to insure you never do engine damage. As a chain elongates, you may notice poor performance. In severe cases, the tensioner can over-extend and the chain may contact other engine components, which is obviously not desirable. Given that it is roller chain, 120,000 should be adequate.
     
  10. Oct 2, 2008 at 2:54 PM
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    ummm, I need to look at the manual.... u telling me we have to change the chain at 120k? that means I have to change the water pump no?
     
  11. Oct 2, 2008 at 2:58 PM
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    The manual only covers up to 120k miles and there's no mention of it, anywhere.
     
  12. Oct 2, 2008 at 4:47 PM
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    chris4x4

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    I have never had to replace a timeing chain in a Toyota motor. I had almost 200 thou on my 'ol 22re and decided to change the chain. Chain was fine, and all the work I did was for nothing. I contacted Toyota about this a year and a half ago asking about the chain in the 1GR-FE, and they said that the chain is a "lifetime" chain. That threw my BS flag RIGHT UP, and I decided to dig a bit deeper on my own. Turns out, They were right..........kinda. The Toyota truck engines are engineered to have a 250,000 mile service life before requiring "major" work. The timeing chain is included in this 250,000 mile service life. ALSO, I havent been able to find a "duty cycle" rating for this engine. Its very rare that a Toyota engine requires a "Major" overhaul at 250,000 miles. I have many friends that have MUCH more than that on their engines. A buddy of mine is getting ready to turn 600,000 miles on his Tacoma, and he has never replaced his timing chain. And it seems to run just fine. :)
     
  13. Oct 2, 2008 at 4:49 PM
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    so i guess i have timing chain then? word up dawg!
     
  14. Nov 5, 2008 at 7:41 PM
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    ^Belt.
     
  15. Nov 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM
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    yep.....timing belt...needs replacing at 90k. thats when i'll do mine, along with water pump, seals and my other belts too. good insurance!!:)
     
  16. Nov 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
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    If you do change the chain... you should do the waterpump at the same time. It's not necessary, but it's a lot of work. It'd suck to have the waterpump fail 20k later and have to tear the chain back off to replace a pump. I changed out the pump on my vr-4 at 60k when the belt was done... not because it was needed but because it's a $120 insurance policy to get you through to the next change.
     
  17. Nov 5, 2008 at 10:50 PM
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    The water pump on a 1GR-FE V6 engine is an externally mounted water pump. The pump is run by the external serpentine V-ribbed belt not by the timing chain.
     
  18. Nov 5, 2008 at 10:53 PM
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    Ah well then, no point in doing it :p Most vehicles are usually driving it with the t-belt/chain. Didn't look at the taco's. (Granted, at 7k miles on the odo I had awhile to do it :p) Thanks for the info.
     
  19. Nov 5, 2008 at 11:00 PM
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    That is one thing Toyota has done right lately by mounting the water pump on the outside of the there motors makes replacement a lot less time consuming. :)
     
  20. Nov 6, 2008 at 4:45 AM
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    the timing belt is a pain then i gotta do the water pump too...
    no offical word from toyota is chain or belt?
     

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