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Food Smokers and Smoking Tips/Tricks/Techniques

Discussion in 'Food Talk' started by Polymerhead, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. Dec 4, 2018 at 6:18 AM
    burntkat

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    What did this run you? I could use a good cleaver, not to mention spices. I have a good hunk of UHMWP for cutting, but it's got no soul...
     
  2. Dec 4, 2018 at 6:37 AM
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    The deer shoulder looks awesome. I can't say I've ever had that. I love pretty much all things deer meat, though, that I have tried. I wouldn't mind giving that a shot.

    Thanks for the shout out and the vote of confidence!
     
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  3. Dec 4, 2018 at 6:40 AM
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    I don't know the exact temp/time that you get into trouble. But, I have done the same as you have the last two years and we all live to tell about it. I throw a frozen bird directly from freezer into a cooler in the house/garage (depending on which is actually cooler), then monitor the temp over around 2-2.5 days. From my experience, it stays around 45 the entire time, with no ice, until the last part of the thaw, when the temp will start to go up. Then I throw in something frozen for the last part to keep the temp around 45.
     
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  4. Dec 4, 2018 at 6:53 AM
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    Congratulations, again, and thanks for the patience regarding everything getting shipped out. The swag from @Kanyon71 turned out awesome. That cutting board almost didn't make it in to the prize package ;).

    About that little shaker....get to cooking!

    I have placed an order for 2 dozen of them from @Kanyon71 and Triple S Engraving. I should have them in stock soon enough!

    It is. It would fit in the Salt & Pepper category at a basic level, but it is pepper forward, some unique salts, and a touch of some other ingredients.

    Fart filled bubble wrap must be in high demand this holiday season. I couldn't find it anywhere! ;)

    :rofl:

    I think @Misplaced Nebraskan got version 11 of the rub. It is only the slightest tweak from what I brought to competition this year. I used in on the steaks that we won 1st place in People's Choice and I used it on the the brisket that finished 1 point from being in the top 10 (14th out of 74 teams). The *only* flavor on that brisket was this rub and smoke. Zero injection. I've been using it for any event/gathering that I've prepped brisket, steaks, or beef ribs for, as well. I still have two things on the schedule for tweaks, but I'll await the initial feedback from @Misplaced Nebraskan . Hopefully I can start sending samples to folks on here by the end of this year or early in to January.

    The cleaver is a one-off done by @Kanyon71 and his company, Triple S Engraving. The Pitfaced BBQ Meat Massage/Spicy Meat Massage is from my small business. There is a link in my signature to the rubs (we just have the two at the moment). For swag, though, definitely reach out the @Kanyon71. They do an awesome job with the laser beam machine. :D
     
  5. Dec 4, 2018 at 6:54 AM
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    Great info, and I'm no longer so concerned.

    I put in 6 trays of ice before leaving this morning and it was around 35 IIRC. My son forgot to check when he headed to school. I think I'll be just fine.

    I am going to just let it ride unless it starts getting above 45 degrees, at which point I'll throw a couple ice packs in there with it and let her go till she thaws.

    It helps that I now know that I don't have any reason to brine the bird, as it comes pre-brined. I will save this kit, maybe inject this bird instead.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2018 at 7:00 AM
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    The "danger zone" for meat is 40* - 140* according to the FDA:

    https://www.fsis.usda.gov/shared/PDF/Danger_Zone.pdf

    General rule of thumb is that you should avoid allowing meat to spend 4 hours or more in this "danger zone", keeping in mind that a portion of your cook will (obviously) include time spent between those temps as it reaches the finishing temperature.

    If I read it right, you figure it to have been above 40* for about an hour? If so, as long as you got it back under 40*, you should be fine. (All appropriate disclaimers regarding me not being an authority on the topic and you eat at your own risk apply :laugh:)
     
  7. Dec 4, 2018 at 7:05 AM
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    Ran me the cost of a suckling pig :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    But it was the prize for the PitFaced cookoff. and as mentioned earlier... if you want/need anything Laser'd... cause why not?! contact @Kanyon71 . He's done a few jugs and mugs for me already.
     
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    No problems at all. As for the shaker... I have a brisket thawing now and will be at my dad's starting Friday. I told him we need to test it on everything. It'll even get tested on fresh venison. :bananadance:
     
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    Damn Gov't! Just when I thought I had it down. ;)

    JK, FYI, I used 45 just as an arbitrary temp since my fridge runs right around 42-43 degrees, given all the opening and closing that happens, so I figure a couple degrees warmer is still OK. But we all know the actual temp and time has many dependencies. I may just sicken my entire family next year using the same method I've done in the past.
     
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    @bvbull200 who is doing the cutting boards? Thanks
     
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    Everything laser beamed in that picture was done by @Kanyon71 !
     
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    Thanks. This is *exactly* what I was looking for.

    Turns out I had the basics of it already in my head, but I was actually going to the point of discussing this with my son, who just quit working at Zaxbys (southern chicken joint), and thus had a lot of food safety training.
     
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    Thanks
     
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    If anyone needs anything laser etched just let me know. We will take care of the TW family. :)
     
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    Z Grills has their 700 pooper on BOGO. :annoyed:
     
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    Thanks. I cheated tho I use a pellet smoker :cool:
     
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    Who cares? Did you get tasty smoked meat? Win!
     
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    If you had a holiday party you were considering bringing a brisket to, how far in advance can you smoke it and then refrigerate it?

    We have a shindig on the 11th, I am trying to figure out what to bring. Honestly, I've only done one brisket, so this would be kind of ballsy...

    EDIT: and I'd have to figure out how to reheat on site... maybe not.
     
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    You can cook multiple days ahead, vacuum seal and then heat it up sous vide style and it should be great. Lot of restaurants use that technique.
     
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    It’s not cheating contrary to some opinions :)

    Good food is good food.
     

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