~Concealed Weapons~

@jross20, if I'm carrying it is on me. I plan ahead so I don't need to leave my gun in my vehicle. When I'm at home my gun is either locked up or in my possession. A responsible firearm owner keeps their shit secure...pretty simple concept. You shouldn't need a law to say that is the best practice when it comes to firearms.

Say you leave your gun unsecured in your vehicle then walk up on the criminal who is rifling through your truck to relieve you of your possessions. When they point your gun in your face it is safe to say that you have some blame in creating that situation.

 

Relax dude. No one is saying that criminals aren't responsible for bad behavior. People that steal and break into cars are being irresponsible lawbreakers no arguement. I can also agree that you are allowed to take whatever means you feel are necessary to protect yourself.

But, knowing that people break into cars and steal shit, the responsible thing to do is to at least take some steps to make sure they don't have a free gun once they're in your car. Isnt that a part of responsible gun ownership? Ya know, being a little more responsible than the idiots that break into cars and steal shit? That's all we're asking

 

Personally I work too hard for my money, and I’ll be damned if I’m going to let some piece of shit steal a 5 or $600 dollar gun just by breaking a car or truck window.

 

Dont bash me over the head, I agree.
However, the laws (and proposed laws) are making it so the gun owner has responsibility.
Such as trying to make a gun seller responsible for any crime the gun may be used in for 5 years after the gun is sold unless the seller can PROVE that the gun was sold with an approved lock. Or, if a house gets broken into and guns are stolen. The victim is responsible for any crime the guns are used in because whatever safe they were using was obviously not safe enough and they were negligent. Even if the thief had a full day to break into it.

 

Blackhawk serpa holster under the steering wheel

 

I keep a .44 mag zip tied to the frame in a glad freezer bag. A la, Chuck Norris.

 

always keep something handy.......on my person with CCW

or side pocket driver's door.....recent purchase......

H&K 40 Smith P30 with safety 4"

 

I don't know what states you guys live in, but that is absolutely not the case here. Does that only apply in New York and California? Sounds typical of those areas.

Completely ridiculous. So if somebody steals my truck and runs over a kid does Toyota need to go to jail? How anyone could believe this rubbish is just beyond me.

 

Will your first problem with spending five or six hundred dollars on the gun. I'm assuming that's a pistol, and that's way too much for a pistol. You can get a wasr for $650. And don't even tell me that you have a gun safe, I'm confident that only a small handful of people on this site have an actual real safe. Not one that you got from Dick's or academy. A real one, not a Micky mouse one that they claim are "safes".

Also by that logic you better never buy a vehicle worth more than a few thousand because they could be stolen just about as easy.

I mean seriously we could go on indefinitely with this, and it all boils down to "something may happen so never do anything". I refuse to live that way.

 

Unfortunately, it is Oregon. Yeah, the plague is spreading and it is the fault of the air.

 

Glove compartment or console. No need to get fancy.

 

My pistol rides here while Driving then when I get out it goes straight into a pocket holster. It is held in place by 10# velcro

 

Who gets to decide what is responsible? You? Other people? I mean seriously that's a never-ending issue. Locking my vehicle is more than enough on my part. My vehicle is my property in the state of Georgia, literally an extension of the home.

"Yeah sorry because you didn't barricade your doors you were actually irresponsible and caused this robbery/rape/murder."

Again, who gets to decide? What if I change my protocol to satisfy you, yet somebody else still thinks it's not enough? That will go on indefinitely. And honestly if you want me to throw my hat in the ring, I would say that the only safe that's adequate is one that 2" thick steel all the way around. Which pretty much nobody can afford, but then again somebody else may think that that's still not adequate.

"Not enough locks, lock not good enough, lock not big enough, safe too small, steel too thin, etc"

The bottom line is, as long as it's out of sight and locked up that's adequate. We're not talking about bad parenting here, like if you have a kid you have to be responsible and ensure that they do not stumble upon any firearms.

We're talking about criminals, people who don't matter. They're pretty much unpredictable and never-ending, honestly the only thing you can do about them is own a gun. it's something we have to live with, and I refuse to live in fear.

 

I used to keep my M&P 9 in a Fobus OWB holster under the steering column, but was worried about cops seeing it during a traffic stop and it being unsettling.

Now, since it's compliant with CO law, I keep it a little more out of easy sight. It's attached to the driver's seat adjustment bar. Still an easy pull. It's in the Fobus holster, friction fit, two holes drilled and zip tied to bar with some velcro on the nozzle end to keep the grip pointed up and ready to grab. I recently added a double mag holster to the area too, no pics of that though, attached the same way.

 

I don't carry a gun in the truck anymore. I carry something like this in the door. The gun laws in NM are going to change next year because of the anti gunners that got elected.

https://www.thekhukurihouse.com/mini-jungle-gurkha-kukri

 

Sorry man, not following you.. if it's not secure, it's a free gun to who ever finds it.

I'll see myself out and allow this thread to return to it's original purpose

 

I totally agree.

I know a guy who unloads his pistol, puts the clip in the locked glove box and then puts a gun lock on the action then puts the gun in a safe BOLTED to the floor of the truck (safe sits under the seat) when hes not in the truck.

My smart ass response to his exhausting process was: “What happens when someone just steals the whole truck?”.

ALL of that bull shit... no I’m not doing that. Plus what happens when I forget to undo all that when I’m back in my truck after making a trip to the store and someone tries to car jack me on the way home?

The above and beyond stuff in most cases just reduces the safety the gun gives you. Murphys Law is what can go wrong will go wrong. Don’t present more opportunities for things to go wrong than you have to.
Don’t put barriers between you and the gun where you can’t get to it how and when you need it.

If you are that paranoid... don’t own a gun.

 

What pistol uses a clip?

What the hell is the point of an unloaded gun? It might as well be a hammer. A weapon needs to be loaded and ready to go.

 

He does this any time he leaves the truck with the gun in it.
Do if he goes into the bank or other place he doesn’t want to carry the weapon then he’ll do his lock up procedure. Then have to undo it all when he gets back in.

 

First of all... I don’t live in fear because I do carry a gun most of the time. 2nd...I don’t know where you live or what kind of guns you buy but many of my guns surpasses the 5-$600 price range. 3rd...you’re right, I do have a gun safe and it’s a pretty good one, and if you can get my guns out of my house you can have them. I try not to leave anything of value in my truck,in plain sight or unsecured Including guns. Unfortunately where I live we have a lot lazy FUCKTARDS who wants something for nothing. I don’t see the need to give these Assholes any unnecessary opportunities. If I know I’m going to be going in a federal building I will put my gun in a safe,cabled to my seat. As far as who can sue who,a lot of people have been sued for someone else’s wrongdoing, not saying it’s right I’m just saying it happens. Nowadays it seems that the low life’s have more rights than the victims.