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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:25 AM
    glorifiedwelder

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    You don’t need to mount an upper link. In theory makes for an easier install, until you start blowing up driveshafts
     
  2. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:26 AM
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    Makes sense. Thanks for the good info.
     
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    couldn't they just use one piece of DOM tubing with mounts for the coilover and bypass, is it required to be boxed you think?
     
  4. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:27 AM
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    Tubing is general for a rock crawler as they have their shocks/coilovers setup much differently. Typically mounted directly to the axle.

    Long travel will mount to the lower arms thus giving you a different lever ratio and allows you better tuning for faster shaft speeds. Because of this a LOT of force is put on the arm so it needs to be well..a big ass arm to stop the steel deflection which in turn means the shock is doing the work and there is less variables for tuning.

    A full 4 link is better but you have to consider your fuel cell as the stock tank will not work with a 4 link so you have to do a cell.
     
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  5. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:30 AM
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    Makes sense. That is probably going to be the hard stop for me. If i can avoid moving the tank, that is appealing.
     
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  6. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:32 AM
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    3 link is your only option then. Which works well too. Just has axle swing due to the setup which can be minimized to a point.
     
  7. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:34 AM
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    Cool cool. I will do some drawings today and see what I can come up with. Probably a bad idea to start thinking about this but what the hell, right?
     
  8. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:40 AM
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    would you even notice axle swing on a tacoma?

    just assuming it's not a fully gutted race truck
     
  9. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:41 AM
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    you can buy 3 link kits relatively cheap and go from there.
     
  10. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM
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    I've never been in a taco with 3 link. Can feel it in 4runners though. :notsure:

    @Evenflow setup is super cool as its only a 14'' CO under the bed and pulls 20'' or something. Its a 3 link and Im sure he can answer that question.
     
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    Yeah, his is what prompted me down this road.

    I really like the fully intact bed, and 20" is pretty crazy.
     
  12. Dec 6, 2018 at 7:46 AM
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    They could, but they would still need to bent to mount the c/o’s and bypasses below the centerline of the pivots. They would also be pretty weak. When you put a coilover and/or bypass in the middle of the link you are adding a lot more force onto the links than if they are just locating your axle.
     
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    Well shock mount location for starters...crawlers dont usually put the shock on the link and dont cycle the same amount of travel.

    The reason trailing arms are soo beefy is the leverage of the shocks is in the middle of an arm and the jarring forces of hitting things at high speed puts alot of stress on the links, whereas a crawler is just flopping around thru some slow rocks the stress isn't the same
     
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    run the ruffstuff URC trailing arms. cheap, light, strong and will work for both go fast and crawling.
     
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    Those are remarkably affordable
     
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    they are great, theres an old dodge bodied ultra 4 that ran their huge canoe links and they bent and got trashed, runs the URC arms now and has zero problems with them. They are killer
     
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    Dirt Designs has a nice 3 Link they’ll make for you.
    socalmoto@gmail.com
     
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    Finally straightened out the U boats and new bump pads

    IMG_2074.jpg
     
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  20. Dec 6, 2018 at 4:35 PM
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    Yes
    NO the Ruffstuff links will not work on a second or third gen taco the length vs CO mounting point are all wrong. This same issue holds true for every generic pre fab link I have seen. If you are going to buy pre fab links go with taco specific links IE: Solo or as someone else mentioned the complete 3 link kit from @dirt designs he has really dialed in the geometry amazingly well. I am going to mod my pan hard to match his design as I made a mild mis calculation in my design...nothing wrong really just that DD dialed in the pan hard positioning so well that from full bump to droop his kit only has 3/4” of lateral sway.


    about the lateral sway - I only noticed it for the first week, it’s no big deal at all compared to the massive benefits gained IMO

    ...it’s actually just a well positioned 12” CO. We crawled under the truck with rulers, tape measures, string etc for a few days mocking it up and laughed when we realized it would still pull 18-20” with the CO’s under the bed. All said and done right at 20” bumped and strapped. Front link pivot is on the side of the frame and it bumps at the bottom of the frame.

    You can kinda make out the angle of the dangles in this pic. The one admitted real pain in the ass with links is that you need massive jacks stands to be able to droop the fahka out in the garage...

    D81ADCBA-13D6-496C-969A-BA75A9A8525A.jpg
     

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