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Toyota Refuses To Replace My Frame

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by ToyotaRacingDev, Dec 11, 2018.

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Will Toyota Do Frame Replacement

  1. No

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  2. Keep dreaming

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  1. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:11 AM
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    JC15Taco

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    JMO, but at 300,000 Km, I'd be moving on...especially an Ontario vehicle.
    Hope it works out for you though.
    Cheers, Jeff
     
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  2. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:20 AM
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    96carboard

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    But if he can get a new frame, that 300,000 km vehicle becomes a 0 km vehicle.
     
  3. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:22 AM
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    the frame, yes...body and all the other stuff that salt eats alive, not so much.
     
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  4. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:23 AM
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    96carboard

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    The only thing that the salt really eats *is* the frame.
     
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  5. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:27 AM
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    What about the axle assemblies, leaf springs, exhaust piping, numerous fasteners, steering knuckles, etc.?
     
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  6. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:29 AM
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    OP, do you have a wire wheel and a drill to make most of the less adherent rust come off? Rust takes up a lot more volume than iron/steel and can make the frame look a lot worse than it really is. It will also be easier to take a hammer and chisel to it and see where perforations are at.
     
  7. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:43 AM
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    Why will the new frames last only 10 years?...The problem areas were corrected and a different coating was applied.Plugs were installed too.
     
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  8. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:43 AM
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    Well to start with, all very easily replaced.
    Second, rust on those is negligible compared to frame. Especially given that the exhaust piping is stainless steel. The leaf springs have probably already been replaced, are CHEAP, and are much thicker than the frame (rust is not a major consideration there), steering knuckles? Wow. Those heavy blocks of cast iron won't rust out too fast. Certainly not noteworthy.
     
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  9. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:45 AM
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    He didn't say they would last only 10 years. He just used that as an example to demonstrate MATHEMATICS. The point is that HOWEVER MANY YEARS IT WILL LAST only starts to count down from the moment the frame is replaced. That could start NOW, or it could start 2 years from now.
     
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  10. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:45 AM
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    How many rusted components and seized fasteners have you dealt with? "Stainless" steel does corrode eventually, especially when heated to several hundred degrees repeatedly. I'll have to take some pictures of my ten year old piping.
     
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  11. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:49 AM
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    You're completely missing the point.
    MINOR vs SIGNIFICANT.

    You can justify replacement of minor components like the exhaust pipe as part of normal ongoing maintenance. You CANNOT justify replacement of frame out of pocket.
    And yeah, of course stainless steel rusts. But SLOWLY. Even if its got a good coat of surface rust, it probably got lots of life left in it.
     
  12. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:55 AM
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    I just sold my 1987 Dodge Truck and the frame was still good.The count down must have been going on for a while.
     
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  13. Dec 11, 2018 at 11:56 AM
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    Nah, Dodge? Its all the oil its always leaking. Its not a flaw, its a FEATURE!
     
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  14. Dec 11, 2018 at 12:35 PM
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    Yes I saw that but they cannot be serious about that. The frame could have zero holes and the just poof into dust after a firm bump.

    Again we've seen much less worse frames be replaced on here sometimes with zero effort. If they're going to make a big deal about the hole not being big enough then I would definitely to speak to a lawyer. All they're trying to do is waste time and avoid it even though it clearly needs to be swapped.

    I wouldn't even drive the truck, it looks very dangerous!

    *Drive not drive
     
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  15. Dec 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM
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    When i worked at my old shop. toyota denied the frame repair for one of my customers. so we welded 1/4 steal plates on the rear frame. it worked out pretty well and looked factory for most of it lol
     
  16. Dec 11, 2018 at 12:44 PM
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    True in this case. although not everyone updates this.
     
  17. Dec 11, 2018 at 1:31 PM
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    Looks like it was driven on a beach in the surf. Massive salt corrosion. Not being mean but did you ever wash the undercarriage after exposure to salt!?!. My 2017 isn't exposed to salt but alot of off-road dirt and rocks. I'm diligent about cleaning the underside. Did a road trip up to Wisconsin this Thanksgiving. Went through Minnesota. Lottsa salt on the road. Did several undercarriage washes when I got home. Salt eats steal. Wash it off
     
  18. Dec 11, 2018 at 1:49 PM
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    Has the truck been rust proofed ever???
     
  19. Dec 11, 2018 at 1:59 PM
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    Just my curiosity, I thought that once the frame was coated, Toyota wouldn’t have to replace the frame down the road. Mine was coated 3 years ago and it’s completely gone can I go back and get it inspected again?
     
  20. Dec 11, 2018 at 2:12 PM
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    Yes, you have 12 years from your "in-service date", so if your I.S.D is some time in 2008 then you have until some time in 2020 to have it inspected.
     

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