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Is the manual transmission that much better than the auto transmission?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Skinny P, Dec 19, 2018.

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  1. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:18 AM
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  2. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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    You know, one shouldn't throw stones when living in a glass house.

    I bought a manual truck because I wanted a manual truck and I'm not going to argue with anyone about it. Buy what you want, it's your money and your vehicle.
     
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  3. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:20 AM
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    Most auto transmissions bite the dust early compared to the manual transmissions. I’m still
    on my original transmission at 580,000 miles with no repairs.

    Auto transmission needs a flush that cost 350.00 Done by a dealer.
    Manual oil change is just drain and fill for 50.00
     
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  4. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:24 AM
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    That’s a pro?
     
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  5. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:25 AM
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    Great post on your longevity! I wish I was smart enough to by a 1st Gen back in the day.

    Less $$ for the 3rd Gens:

    1L is all:
    $27 RAVENOL J1C1003 MTF-3 SAE 75W Full Synthetic Gear Oil - 1 Liter for Manual Transmissions, Differentials & Transfer Cases
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QPCL7ZE

    Plus gaskets:
    $13 GENUINE TOYOTA GASKET KIT FOR TRANSFER AND DIFFERENTIAL SERVICE
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017V4BAXI

    :cheers:
     
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  6. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:25 AM
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    Uhhh.....new clutch.....uhhh.....clutch cylinder fluid......uhhh.......squeaky pedal linkage........uhhh....
     
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  7. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:28 AM
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  8. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:29 AM
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    1 of 3 ain't bad. . . :D

    I never had a clutch problem in the three cars that we had, about 300k combined. I know the one that we owned longest is still rolling around on the original clutch after it was given to a 16yr old. Swapping the clutch in the Taco, if I ever have to, will be a piece of cake.

    Clutch fluid is shared with brakes on the Sports. The squeaky clutch pedal is a nearly free fix with some disk brake grease. Mine has started clicking. It is almost not noticeable compared to say the dash speaker grille squeak before I fixed it.
     
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  9. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:29 AM
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    Clutch lasts 300,000 miles for me, it’s just personal choice, manual you have better control over your gears, if you just cruise an auto is better like my Tahoe
     
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  10. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:30 AM
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    No more Taco. A 2500HD and a Bronco sport

    You sound a little salty. Hopefully nobody will call you out over using modern technology to let the world know of your grievances via keystroke. I imagine “back in the day” having to hand-write a letter to let everyone know how you feel was time consuming.
     
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  11. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:31 AM
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    exactly, and this is why my sports car career is over. last one for example had ~25K in mods, and the fact is that i couldn't even approach any kind of limit in that thing in factory spec not to mention the modded version i had, and even on a track it was hard to milk the fun out of it. such a waste and such a diva, talk about boring. now i have a Tacoma setup for all kinds of fun, and i drive around approaching the handling limits all day every day. more fun than your average track day and i'm just going to work!

    in other news: https://www.tfltruck.com/2018/12/as...ught-the-last-new-turbo-diesel-with-a-manual/
     
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  12. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:33 AM
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    The post I quoted said there was less MT maintenance. That was my point.

    Anyways.....as I said.....I’m a fan of both, but for my configuration Auto is the only option in Canada.

    Auto is superior Offroad, all day long....no questions asked, which is nice. Unless you have a crawl box, you will never match the capabilities of an auto Offroad, but you may have more fun and get in more trouble with an MT.

    Cruising the paved back roads, I wish I had a MT.
     
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  13. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:37 AM
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    I have a friend that used to race small boats. After the light bulb came on, he gave up boats to get back on a bike. He would laugh that it would take up entire weekends, all day prepping, and such to just get in a couple 3min runs. He'll say that we have more fun riding to see his friend's racing than he did in an entire weekend racing.

    It is all a matter of perspective. It took a long time for me to grow up, just a bit, and realize that rowing a Taco was what I was really missing.
     
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  14. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM
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    OME and worth every penny.
    One thing to remember is that more and more vehicles are getting rid of the option. Don't count on always being able to choose on the Tacoma.

    In 10 yrs. we'll be having this conversation about whether we want to manually drive or just buy an auto-pilot model.
     
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  15. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:40 AM
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    V6 5sp,RegCab,TVS1320 Supercharger, 56mm pulley, methanol injected Haltech ECU, AC Tvs1320 supercharger,(MUST DO) every 125,000- 150,000 needs rebuild Projector headlights HID 5 speed manual Amsoil for all drive train Smaller 56mm custom pulley, (MUST DO) 2004 DESNO fuel injectors, zero ping ping, 2004 side door mirrors Dick Cepek Rims, Michelin tires LTX, ATM Pathfinders Dynopro ATM ( that last 100,000 miles) Now running Dynopro ATM mud and snow tires KN cold air intake Cat back dual exhaust with ss exhaust tip, Raised exhaust tail pipe to 2" below body line Optima*dry cell battery,red top Alpine sirius radio, 200 watt amp, focal is165 split door pod speakers Focal door speakers Subwoffer behind seat Viper alarm, Electric Locks Dark tinted windows, bucket seats corbeau lg1 Tacoma Rubber floor mats TRD fender extenders, Bilstien shocks, King shocks JBA UCA trailer iv hitch, electric brake control, Drilled slotted brakes, High carbon steel (MUST DO) EBS green stuff 7000 series pads(MUST DO) TRD engine oil cap TRD stick shift, Marlin crawl shift kit. Rear sliding window 2002 4Runner functional hood scoop cut into Tacoma hood, 4Runner dual overhead map light Gentex Auto dim + Compass + Temp, garage,rearview mirror Snow Methonal kit stage 2 Custom 3 core aluminum radiator Linex bed liner Haltech stand alone ECU, Intake supercharger gauge. Stainless steel brake lines, Custom leather wrapped steering wheel, Haltech stand-alone ECU,
    Mmm my best friend was killed on a bike 5 years ago and I sold my bike back then, grrrr
    Miss those days of the bike I must say
     
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  16. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:40 AM
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    1st gear 4 Lo down hill on a OR with a M/T is better. A/T OR needs crawl control to match it.
     
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  17. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:41 AM
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    I’ve driven manual sports cars my entire driving career. After almost 20 years, I really enjoy the auto for daily use. It’s nice to just drive. When I get another weekend car, it will be a manual.
     
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  18. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:43 AM
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    Automatic have come a long way, ford has a 10 speed auto,
    Have not driven one, maybe those are better, don’t know
     
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  19. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:45 AM
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    The Ford 10 speed drives very nice. My work truck has one and it’s silky.
     
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  20. Dec 19, 2018 at 8:46 AM
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    it's all a matter of perspective. right on. my young man's driving game has matured with the Tacoma. and part of that is being able to pass sports cars on the outside on a wet road with my AT tires and a zero camber alignment, if you know what i mean. this truck's handling can turn heads if you know how to find it. ;)

    some years ago i built a crazy 1970 A-body and i employed a engine builder who was a race champion engine builder for those crazy ass race boats up in PNW. he spec'd and assembled one of those motors for my car, because he gave up boat racing involvement after losing too many friends to the racing, wondering who's gonna die this weekend. and yeah that has nothing to do with anything but i can at least post a pic of it. :alien:

    [​IMG]
     
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