Archery Talk

Season ends Sunday here,I work this weekend so today was going to be my last hunt. A good friends wife passed away and the visitation is tonight,so I’m officially done deer hunting for this year.

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

sorry to hear that also.

 

My condolences.

 

It has gotten crazy but I do love all the new technology and advancements.

 

Thanks!

 

Sweet, Santa was good to you! Santa just arrived at my house as well, not quite as generous as he was to you, but I did get my new bow in Sept.
Santa got me a Titanium Archery Products Element X stabilizer.
I didnt think I would notice a difference, but after several shots I noticed significantly less felt bibs in my hand and i was shooting tighter groups.
Placebo effect? Maybe. But its worth it to me if I feel more confident with longer shots.


Looking forward to get out with @LocoLocal to try some 3d shooting at the local Izaak Walton.

 

Public and private lands are a totally different game. As someone who hunts both, I acknowledge public land is usually much more challenging. The good thing about that is most people give up, making it one of my favorite places to hunt.

However, I wouldn't go saying private land isn't fair chase though. Unless you're talking about a high fence ranch, that's not real hunting.

Hell yeh man!

 

hey whats up! just saw the thread for the first time, im from central ma, i usually shoot at jerrys bait and tackle in milford in the indoor league. i bow hunt and im a member of woodville rod and gun, good to see fellow tacoma lovers and archers!

 

Welcome to the archery thread!

 

LocoLocal: I didn't mean all private land - I hunt on my in-laws and their neighbors, maybe 25 acres total. Adjacent to properties others can hunt, I guess I would consider more than a 100 acres tied up LESS of a fair game hunt. I do not begrudge anyone the opportunity to hunt on leased/private property. As you stated it is a different ballgame than hunting public land.

Luckily, I hunt in an area (Ohio and PA) where there is still plenty of property that is free to hunt on - public or timber company land in PA; public in Ohio. Private property in NE Ohio is getting tougher to get free access on since Ohio is producing some monster bucks year after year and both resident and non-resident hunters are trying to lease hunting rights and keep others out, WHICH THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO!! Just means that the hunters that can't afford to lease land will be able to hunt only public land which will become more crowded as leasing becomes more common.

 

So this is the deal. It doesn’t matter if you lease, own, or whatever other scenario possible. Poachers are everywhere. The rut has no boundaries. Even Don Kisky and Lee and Tiffany have neighbors that hunt and kill deer they are hunting if they stray. I think any land no matter public or private is fair chase unless it is high fenced. If anything you have more opportunities on public due to the fact that most land reacts dwarf any lease or private land you get permission on. People hunt from the road. People sneak onto private land. People will kill deer on a leased property if they have the balls and feel they can get away with it. The biggest deer I have ever seen on the hoove was on 8 acres in a neighborhood. Fair chase is fair chase and high fence is not. Although, some high fence areas can be thousands of acres as well. A thousand acres is a shitload of land. I only have permission to hunt two private places and both are hunted by people who have asked for permission and they all kill deer on the same property. I live an hour each way to hunt these places and one property a guy who hunts it can walk to the property since it’s 400 yards from his house. That really screws me since I can’t be there all the time since I had to move to be closer to school. He killed 3 deer on the 8 acres. I killed one. I had permission on the land and was the only one hunting it for 5 years. Tell me how you think I felt when he started driving all the deer off the property. It sucks but I don’t own the land. That’s why I’m back in school. I want to finish my education to be able to afford my own land and only have the people closest to me to hunt it and to always respect the land and animals.

 

Public land sucks!

 

Sweet baby Jesus!!!!!!!!!

 

I am sorry to ruffle others feathers......I guess it all depends on what situation you grew up hunting. I have 50 years of deer hunting and when I was 13-15 we paid $5 for opening day to hunt timber company land - the money went to the local volunteer fire department (one of their only fund raisers) as they 'patrolled' the woods opening day to make sure people had their permits. Anyone was free to buy a permit, but with state game lands, national forest, and all the private land to hunt for free, few people paid to hunt there. When gypsy moth invaded the property and the timber company started clear cutting, the permits stopped as most guys didn't want to hunt there any more. I still hunt there on opening day.

I guess if you grew up hunting on leased property, that is what you are used to doing, and nothing wrong with that.

Just my point of view.

LONG LIVE HUNTING!!!!

 

No ruffled feathers. Things are juat different than they use to be. Everyone has their own way to adapt.

 

We have a unique area we can hunt, lots of "public" land or rather paper company owned land that they let people hunt, some state owned land, and private land. My 8 acres is backed up to state land and paper company land and some county owned land and a private land residence. Yet out of all the acreage around me, people still come through my little 8 acres. Not as many as before since I put a gate up and no trespassing signs but still annoying anyone goes through there. I have taken some deer off my land and one elk. I try to make it pressure free unless Im hunting in there. Theres some food and always water, the water I'd like to make a pond or something for animals to find and that would draw them in. I just have some legal hurdles to address to get permission to build a pond on my property.

 

When I moved to Ohio in the fall of '79, you could basically hunt from one end of the county to the other without having to ask permission - as long as you weren't shooting close to buildings. Now it is a rarity to get permission to hunt (for free) on most properties. And I get that, it is PRIVATE property and the owner has a right to let or deny anyone access to their property for any reason. I also strongly agree with that right. Some hunters - trespassers/poachers - are definitely part of this problem.......they give all hunters a bad name. I must admit, the worst I/we ever did as far as hunting without permission was during grouse season. A bird would flush and if missed (or no shot taken) the dogs would follow up and we would follow the dogs. Never once had a landowner issue with this. Bunny hunting was different as the beagle(s) would circle the rabbit back to you 99% of the time so you didn't have to follow them were you didn't have permission.

Had a buddy who coon hunted, they (coon hunters) had the worst reputation around here as the dogs were noisy AT NIGHT when people were trying to sleep. Again, you had to follow the dogs wherever they went, so trespassing was common.

Now it seems the worst reputation belongs to the deer hunters - 'everyone' is after that trophy buck and will do whatever it takes (and wherever that may be) to kill one.

 

While I do agree with a lot of what you say,please don’t imply that all trophy hunters will do whatever it takes to kill a trophy. I personally consider myself a trophy hunter,If I want meat I’ll shoot a doe, so shooting small bucks is out of the question. I would guess that I made over a 100 trips to the woods this year and ended up throwing all of my deer permits away. Over the course of the season I seen several nice deer and had trail cam pics of several more. I only had one encounter with what I consider a shooter,unfortunately the shot placement was not lethal. Now, having said that,not all trophy hunters will do “whatever it takes to kill a trophy”. I enjoy sitting in a tree for hours and hours whether I kill a deer or not. It’s been about 4 years since I’ve killed a buck, but if I wanted to do “whatever it takes to kill one”, I could have and would have.

 

Sorry, if you think I implied ALL trophy hunters were BAD CHARACTERS - never meant that at all - reason for the quotations around everyone ('everyone'). It just seems more common today than it used to. Hunters used to just want to fill their tags legally, and the size of the buck wasn't as important as it is today. AT LEAST WHERE I grew up hunting it was that way. Things have definitely changed over the years.

If I come across implying an 'all or nothing' or 'my way or the highway' attitude, PLEASE EVERYONE, I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT!!! NOT WHAT I MEANT IN THE LEAST!!!

I have nothing against either trophy hunters or meat hunters, to each his own.