Headlight Upgrade 2017 TRD

I haven't seen any complaints on 4runners.com. Seems like every day someone gets a new set of HID's and they rave about them.

 

oh well....quien sabe

 

Where’d you hear that? I’ve talked with the long time owner Steve on the phone as recently as last month. He was interested in further product development, and didn’t sound like someone who was selling.

 

i believe i read to on the raptor lighting thread yesterday.......ill check it out again and let you know

 

yea, i've been following Crash for months now. the best lighting information on this forum hands down! i ate a lot of popcorn while reading the deAutoLED debacle!

HID lumen count is so much higher. why get rid of it. slow fire up? wobble? too bright?

-kirk out

 

i read that too, i believe it was in a review. i'm trying to remember the site....ugh!

i definitely looked over their products. i couldn't find 4300k temperature, just 5000k. i'd consider them if i could find 4300k. but the rumor is troubling......kirk out

EDIT- found 4300k, staring right at me!

 

crash: follow up

see posts 344-351.......maybe i got something confused......but it looks like to me they changed hands or moved to atlanta.....it in the post below 344-351, page 14

Xenon Depot HID Kit w/ Philips 4300K Bulbs: Review and Install

 

hahahaha.....been a snake it would have bit you......DD is good company and very helpful folks....giv'em a try

 

Wow that sucks. The move definitely sounds like a sale and I’ve noticed the Philips HID option is no longer available on their site. The Philips HIDs were far better than the XD ones.

 

yea....from your results i would get Phiilps HID also

 

That must be a very recent development. Just a few days ago people were still ordering the Philips from XD.

 

I actually have Xenon Depot HID's and ever since the lift I've been getting flashed pretty consistently, even with multiple adjustments. I have them adjusted so far down now that it negates the benefits of running HID's. I'm going to try the GE +130 and see if that helps.

 

ohhh, wow, too bright!

well, that's an issue i need to consider. however, i'm in the midst of a wide, dark and desolate desert. perhaps i can get away with it....kirk out

 

you may be able to adjust the lights horizontally not vertically.....

 

Performance H9s may be a thing. I suspect I found a bulb to outperform the GEs. Will share more in a bit.

 

hahahaha....for the low beams?

 

hope you have pix.....hehehe

 

This is the back of the Philips +100 package. Up to 400 hours. I found this to be surprising.

 

There are 2 ways to make a bulb brighter. Higher power and higher efficiency. Higher power usually has more robust filaments and which end up causing diluted focus and less distance projection, even though they create more light. Higher efficiency shrinks the filaments to create a more intense higher concentrated light source for better focus and greater distance projection. The holy grail of halogen lighting is to find bulbs that do both which will outperform almost any other bulb type, but they are exceptionally rare. You want higher power for greater lumen output and higher efficiency for greater focus and distance projection.

I run Osram ultra high performance high power AND high efficiency interference H4 bulbs on my 2nd gen partially because the highest performing H4 on the market is now only available as an interference coated 'AllWeather' bulb. Interference bulbs filter targeted light spectrums with a transparent coating causing minimal negative effect to the rest of the spectrum, allowing one to eliminate short wavelength blue light without adversely affecting there rest of the output unlike a yellow coated 'absorption' filter bulb. While I initially did this to use the AllWeather bulbs in the winter and save my clear bulbs for summer, the AllWeather bulbs quickly grew on me. You can see my post comparing the highest performing H4s in post #1520 here. All coated bulbs reduce output. So while my AllSeasons do better than anything currently available, in the Osrams they reduce output by 4%.

Why does all this matter?
H9s are a high power bulb, but it has always been said no one builds a high efficiency H9, only standard bulbs are available.

Enter Lunex from the UK
They make a claimed H9 +80 interference coated 2900k bulb with extended distance projection, made in the UK.



Trust me I am not going to fall for some marketing BS claims, I'm pretty good at seeing through that BS. But as usual I always like to have the test numbers do the talking for me.



So the GE +130s just barely edge out the Lunex H9 +80s in peak lux, even though the H9s are filtering out light. And even though the Lunex bulbs filter out light they are much higher performing than other H9s. See the comparison below. Now it is easy in a photo to think the GEs (right) are way brighter due to color, but they are not, which is why accurate measurement tools are so important. The Lunex bulbs left, are equivalently as bright, though more yellow for better poor weather performance and arguably have a fuller pattern being a significantly higher output H9.



What is interesting about this, is that the interference coated reduced output +80 Lunex H9 bulbs nearly match the GEs in output. Lunex offers a higher performance non-coated +100 H9, which should then easily exceed the performance of the GEs. I ordered them from the UK a while ago and they should be here next week.

 

can't wait to see that review.....so it looks like we may be able to put the H9s in low beams if better than H11 GEs, right?