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3rd gen vs 2nd gen power

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by grubburg, Jan 13, 2019.

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  1. Jan 14, 2019 at 4:23 PM
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    My third gen definitely goes better than my second. A bit slower off the line, but the more I drive the more I feel like that's bad throttle mapping in the beginning stages of input. Third gen is much better on the highway.
     
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  2. Jan 14, 2019 at 4:55 PM
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    How many miles on the TSB? I hear it may relearn it's old ways....
     
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  3. Jan 14, 2019 at 7:48 PM
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    More than 2000. I felt like it returned its old ways but I went up some maintains to test that, and it still went uphill better than pre-tsb.

    I don't agree that it's relearned
     
    Kamille.bidan, Jan 14, 2019
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  4. Jan 14, 2019 at 7:56 PM
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    That's awesome to hear that it does hills better post TSB.
     
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  5. Jan 15, 2019 at 4:56 AM
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    does anyone have a link for the transmission TSB for auto trans?
     
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  6. Jan 30, 2019 at 9:21 AM
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    after 1k miles on a 3rd gen, it is DEFINITLY slower than the 2nd gen. it's not even close. rolling on the throttle in third gear at 35 mph and you don't move.
     
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  7. Jan 30, 2019 at 9:58 AM
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    I say the only way to prove this is to test it from a stop and from a roll in an enclosed area (not main road) and we will see just how much “faster” the 2nd gen is from a 3rd gen. I’ve owned both and I don’t agree. Why don’t you find a buddy with a 2nd gen and show us all which is quicker?
     
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  8. Jan 30, 2019 at 10:03 AM
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    A lot of times when you test drive a vehicle that's been in the lot with a couple gallons of fuel in the tank for over a month will be a subpar performer. But put fresh fuel in it, and it might surprise you
     
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  9. Jan 30, 2019 at 1:32 PM
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    i'm on a second tank brother.

    i'll try to find an adversary nearby and put this to the test!
     
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  10. Jan 30, 2019 at 2:46 PM
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    You have a faulty truck.
     
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  11. Jan 30, 2019 at 2:55 PM
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    This was probably due to the after market intake, a previous car I owned had the same issue with a K&N
     
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  12. Jan 30, 2019 at 3:03 PM
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    I have 1k miles on two separate 3rd gens.
     
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  13. Jan 30, 2019 at 3:10 PM
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    No need, the (performance) change is immediate if you fill the tank from a few gallons to full. Refer to post #70 & 71. The K&N filter can contain oil which can make its way to the maf sensor and screw it up.

    You could try and clean it with TOYOTA approved maf sensor cleaner, but I would also go back to OEM setup and make sure the air filter hose clamps are good & tight.
     
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  14. Jan 30, 2019 at 3:42 PM
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    Ya, but the first one was used. :poking:
     
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  15. Jan 30, 2019 at 4:20 PM
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  16. Jan 30, 2019 at 4:21 PM
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    my 2nd gen had the K and N and it was much faster. and yes, I did clean the MAF and throttle body at 85k miles, but it really didn't need it or change anything.
     
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  17. Jan 30, 2019 at 4:23 PM
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    unless you've driven both in manual transmission, it's really hard to compare the two. trust me, the 2nd gen was a stronger engine. It was also smoother when you went wide open throttle lower in the power band, instead of shifting down.
     
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  18. Jan 30, 2019 at 4:25 PM
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    I feel like my 2nd gen 4 cylinder had more juice in the low rpms, but I can’t complain about my 3rd gen 6 cylinder once it hits 3k rpms. It will move and is plenty strong enough IMO.
     
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  19. Jan 30, 2019 at 4:29 PM
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    If you're not hitting anywhere close to this, something's wrong with your truck.

    2015 Tacoma 0-60 mph and quarter-mile acceleration times of 7.7 and 16.1 V-6
    3rd Gen (2016+) Tacoma - 0-60 MPH, 6.8 sec, 7.1 sec V-6
     
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  20. Jan 30, 2019 at 4:34 PM
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    i'm not testing 0-60. i'm not testing the top of the power bands. i'm testing hitting the gas in 3rd gear at 2500 rmp and one truck is way slower.

    why bother testing quarter mile engine characteristics you'll never use?
     
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