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Buying new Duratracs. Only E rated available.

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by PEIyota, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. Feb 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM
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    PEIyota

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    Funny thing about opinions. Everyone has one.

    I'm glad you are such a bigh fanboy of the Coopers. They were one of my top picks, but I got the Duratracs during a great sale, and they have really good reviews.

    I purchased tire warranty with them (check out the top to your tire warranty from Canadian Tire for details), so I'm not really worried.

    Next go around, I may give the CoopersC a shot.
     
  2. Feb 1, 2019 at 11:07 AM
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    Bluegrass Taco Politically incorrect low tech redneck

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    Funny thing about self proclaimed experts who have no real experience with what they CLAIM to know. They tend to use the term fanboy a lot
     
  3. Feb 1, 2019 at 11:33 AM
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    I came here to ask the "experts" for their opinions, and never once claimed to be. Thankful I got a lot of expert advice. Sadly there were some among them with their head up their own assess, who claimed their opinion to be the only one that mattered.

    Oh well. Thanks for helping me make an informed decision everyone.
     
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  4. Feb 1, 2019 at 11:34 AM
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    Is this satire

     
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    Aren't E load duratracs still 2 ply sidewall like the C load? That's the only reason I would go to the E load, to get the extra sidewall ply.

    I have Toyo M55 which are heavy, stiff, and sound like a 747 Turbine engine spoiling up. All worth it if I can avoid getting stranded once 500 miles from cell service.
     
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  6. Feb 1, 2019 at 12:23 PM
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    What makes you think that?
     
  7. Feb 1, 2019 at 12:54 PM
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    Just bs....


    And.....


    "Expert advice" apparently means "what op agrees with".
     
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  8. Feb 1, 2019 at 1:15 PM
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    On a Tacoma you don't NEED anything heavier than a P rated tire. Going up to an LT doesn't hurt and does provide some sidewall protection for off road driving. Albeit at a greater cost. Anything that will puncture the tread on a P rated tire and cause a flat will do the same on a E rated tire. The LT tires main advantage is primarily heavier load capacity and tougher sidewalls as a secondary advantage.

    But many of the more popular AT and mud tires are only available in LT ratings. If you choose carefully the trucks ride and fuel mileage will not be effected at all, even with E rated tires. I don't recommend LT tires with a C rating for Tacoma's though. The C rated tires are meant for lightweight SUV's like Jeep Wranglers that don't carry heavy loads. The C rated tires are rated for LESS weight than the P series tires that come from the factory. If going up to LT series tires get at least a D rated tire and E's won't hurt a thing. There isn't enough price difference between C, D or E rated tires to worry about.

    An E rated tire is much stiffer and therefore needs LESS air pressure than the P series tires that came on your truck to accomplish the same thing. If you get the air pressure right they ride just fine on a lightweight Tacoma. Lots of guys run them with the amount of air needed for a fully loaded 3/4 ton then complain about the ride.

    All things being equal an E rated tire will get the same fuel mileage as a P rated tire. It is not the weight, but the tread pattern that kills fuel mileage. Tires with a very aggressive tread have much greater rolling resistance and that is what is killing fuel mileage. The E rated tires on my Tacoma have a fairly mild AT tread similar to the tread on the P series tires prior. Fuel mileage is exactly the same as it was getting 12 years ago when new. If I'd stayed with P series tires in a mud tread I'd have lost 1-2 mpg. But they don't make a mud tire in a P series.
     
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  9. Feb 1, 2019 at 1:19 PM
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    This...
     
  10. Feb 1, 2019 at 6:39 PM
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    You're so butthurt. Not hard to tell you bought an E rated tire. Dude I went with a C because I think it's better for me. My opinion. Formed the opinion after doing some research, but it's just my opinion. You're welcome to yours.
     
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  11. Feb 1, 2019 at 6:46 PM
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    Pfffffftttt! That's hilarious! Butthurt ? I'm laughing my ass off. Why would I care what you put on your Barbie jeep? Get over the anger issues before your head explodes.
     
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    They’ll have to run them at like 50psi.
     
  13. Feb 1, 2019 at 7:13 PM
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    You care enough to keep trolling my thread. You mad bro. Want some ointment?
     
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  14. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:35 AM
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    You (highly) over-rate yourself. (And "your thread")

    Why are you so obsessed with my butt? That's telling.....
     
  15. Feb 2, 2019 at 6:08 AM
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    When using P rated tires on a truck you have to subtract 9-10% of the tires load rating. So most of the time C and P tires end up with in a hundred pounds of each other in max load.
     
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    My Jeep rubicon came with e rated tires stock,when they were done I bought c rated duratracs.I noticed a very small difference in ride but no mileage difference.Not saying there wasn’t a difference in mileage but I couldn’t notice.I wouldn’t hesitate to go e rated on my taco.My duratracs were great in the snow but I saw a lot of sidewall failures off road which always worried me so I put a set of bfgs on the taco this time around.Id never buy duratracs again simply based on how many unrepairable sidewall failures I’ve seen.
     
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    For a tiny little truck like a tacoma for all but the most severe off-roading where you are probably going to break a whole lot more shit other than just tires, "C" is plenty.
     
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  18. Feb 2, 2019 at 6:55 PM
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    :crapstorm::popcorn: Wow this has been quite an entertaining thread to troll.. a lot of conjectures and opinions. One post made sense of this
    I ran a 285 Toyo AT2 ‘E’ rated for 40k @35psi. Harsh ride but i had a spacer lift and blocks so i can’t say if it was the tires m, the lift, or both.. I’m on the fence about ordering a C or an E myself. The size i want only comes in E.. I can downsize to a C but i will only do so if i know for certain the ride will be significantly better.. and the water is still pretty muddy on this subject..
     
  19. Feb 2, 2019 at 7:02 PM
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    Don't forget that many E load off-roading tires, while tough, also are designed to conform around rocks etc when aired down.

    E load KM2 for example have a thick 3 ply sidewall but have a softer ride due to the fact that they are designed to to flex and conform.
     
  20. Feb 2, 2019 at 9:37 PM
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    I’m curious. Isn’t that just a by product of being “aired down”?
     

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