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Lift Disaster, Dispair, and Correction

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jross20, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Feb 19, 2019 at 11:45 AM
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    Tonytacoma05

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    By doing this, it is giving you more or positive caster.
     
  2. Feb 19, 2019 at 11:47 AM
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    If money is tight, for now just cut or find someone who can cut your skid plate.
    If all you are doing is mostly road driving take the skid plate off.
     
  3. Feb 19, 2019 at 11:48 AM
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    Leave your sway bar on for mostly road driving.
     
  4. Feb 19, 2019 at 11:50 AM
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    steveo27 Ask me about my weiner

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    The same shit everyone else has.
    With stock UCAs it lowers the caster. Using adjustable UCAs, can achieve the desired caster while achieving the clearance you want.

    My LCAs are pushed as far forward as possible, and I still have 3.2*/3.7* of caster. The caster is achieved through the SPC UCAs.
     
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  5. Feb 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM
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    Gotcha, I have TC adjustable UCA's which are set roughly the same position out, the spindle/knuckle has a slight tilt maybe 3° back towards rear, I can't find my most recent alignment sheet.
     
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  6. Feb 19, 2019 at 12:19 PM
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    Without adjustable uca's, caster is achieved by the front adjuster being adjusted in and adjusting the rear adjuster out until desired caster achieved.
     
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  7. Feb 19, 2019 at 1:44 PM
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    The same shit everyone else has.
    Without adjustable UCAs, you have to find the happy medium with the alignment cams. Setting them as you mention won’t let the camber fall with in spec.

    Aligning with only stock parts is a juggle between caster and camber all set by the LCA cams.

    This is why you lose caster as you lift the truck. To keep the camber within range, you sacrafice the caster.
     
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  8. Feb 19, 2019 at 1:54 PM
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    Totally agree
     
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  9. Feb 19, 2019 at 2:21 PM
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    Well I also want to figure out what on Earth is causing it to bend, and I do like the idea of it from keeping random shit from flying up into the bay.

    if I have to I will cut it, as a last resort I will take it off or replace it.

    You know I've been told to take it off and leave it on so many times haha. I thought about trying it at least.
     
  10. Feb 19, 2019 at 2:50 PM
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    The swaybar removed only benefits offroad situations and can be unsafe for mostly road driving, in a situation where you need too turn the wheel quickly and brakes aren't going to stop you in time, you're truck would most likely flip or roll.
    I'm not telling you what to do, I personally would leave it on if it's not interfering with your tires anymore.
     
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  11. Feb 19, 2019 at 3:13 PM
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    Oh don't get me wrong I'm not trying to argue one way or the other. it's just that I've heard so many arguments from both sides I just don't really know anymore...haha.

    Supposably the risk is not that bad if you have aftermarket springs all the way around. I've never heard anyone suggest to do it on a stock suspension setup.

    Like I said I might try it and do some careful testing in the parking lot near me.
     
  12. Feb 19, 2019 at 3:35 PM
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    I know you're not, alls good.
    I just threw that in there for anybody who mis reads this and think's I'm telling you lol.
    I took mine off for more articulation offroad, I have a 6 inch lift, going around a cloverleaf off ramp on the freeway for the first time scared the hell outta me lol.
    Alot more body roll.
     
  13. Feb 19, 2019 at 3:48 PM
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    I think it would be worse at 6" than it would be at 3, especially if I lower the front to 2"

    Only testing and time will tell
    :fingerscrossed:
     
  14. Feb 19, 2019 at 3:52 PM
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    Yes, worse at 6 than 2-3 lift
     
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  15. Feb 19, 2019 at 5:05 PM
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    My truck was missing the swaybar when I got it and even with the 885 springs, you could feel the lean and looseness on the road. I got a swaybar and the truck feels a lot better with it. I definitely prefer the way it handles/drives with the swaybar but I spend almost all my time on the road, not trails. If you spend a decent amount of time on trails or service roads, you might be better off without it.
     
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    Found my most recent alignment sheet, what do you think? I think it needs some minor tweaking, 20190219_202905.jpg
     
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    I think :threadjacked:
     
  19. Feb 19, 2019 at 10:54 PM
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    my bad.
     
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  20. Feb 20, 2019 at 6:26 AM
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    What about your leaf springs? Do you have dakars?
     

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