New England B.S. Thread

The engineer. The bean counters will generally make the right decision if they’re properly informed by the engineers. Poor designs are not a cost saving measure and should never be presents as such.

 

Free

 

@Pugga

With this stuff, its always those counting the money that fk it up.

This was fast and cheap(relatively) to install. New building(additional capacity).
They have an existing freezer and cooler.
Smart thing, would have been a central engine room, with a few screws, and a lot of piping, could have tied it to the old freezer(not enough horsepower), blah blah. But, this is cheaper.

AND, ITS ELECTRIC DEFROST! IN A -20F FREEZER.

So, yeah, bean counters.

 

I heard He just likes roast beef

 

There is rumors going around that this was a big trafficking ring and not just a rub n' tug. If that's true, Mr. Bob Kraft is gonna be in trouble. Along with R-Kelly who is definitely going to jail it looks like.

 

It's amazing to me that R-Kelly isn't in jail already. He's been pulling shady shit for what, 30 years? It's amazing how he was able to keep that under wraps for that long.

I'm not surprised Bob Kraft would hire an escort or go to a rub and tug, but you would think with his resources, you'd think he'd be smart enough to find a higher class and legal place to go to. If he's dumb enough to get tied up in trafficking, he deserves every bit of what's coming to him.

 

You think he realized what was going on?

 

Seriously, go to a legal brothel in Nevada for that if he wanted it. It'd be a couple hour plane ride on his private jet.

 

Exactly, no shocker he uses prostitutes. What is a shocker is he uses trafficked ones in shitty run down, rub and tugs, and not high class girls who come to your home. I am not saying he is a trafficker though, but cmon. He must know.

ANYONE going to a rub and tug with foreigners has to know most of them have had their passports stolen and they are basically sex slaves. You can say you didn't know, but anyone with a brain knows. There is no excuse IMO for that, and I know people who have been to very similar places. I give two shits about prostitution. I HATE trafficking and sex abuse. He knew, and everyone going there knows. They just tell themselves "this one is different, that girl was happy".

 

No one can say, he knew. Why are not all massage parlors not closed down? Oh and I would think we all would HATE Human trafficking and sex abuse.

 

Not all are traffickers. There are plenty of legit places, they aren't in shitty run down strip malls tho. But how many news stories and things do you need to read about these asian massage places do you need until you open your eyes? I'm saying he knew, and I will stand by that. No way to prove it, but I don't believe for a second a guy like him doesn't understand how things work.

You would think we would all hate it, but we have lots of laws that encourage trafficking, and we have a lot of people who pretend it doesn't exist...

Edit:
I think we aren't going to agree on this so I don't want to go to back and forth forever about it and I'm making claims without proof, which I acknowledge.



Double Edit: Just for people who aren't familiar with this practice or think it isn't a common thing, here is an article out of san fran, as a lot of them come in from Cali boarders weather land air or sea.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/SEX-TRAFFICKING-San-Francisco-Is-A-Major-Center-2468554.php

 

I have not read any news articles on this yet, so I don’t know the whole or should I say the “media’s” story yet. Yes we all should realize something is not on the up and up, but I still lean to we can not assume everyone knows.
Now, the real issue is why is some one with Kraft’s resources going to this shady place?

 

The only thing I can think of, he really just didn't want to talk to a chick. But even then, just tell the escort service you don't want to hear a peep from the lady and stay in your house.

I was saying to my dad this morning, it has to just be something he does. Like every tuesday I go get a hj from the corner store. He doesn't even think twice its just routine. Maybe it started before he was so famous and he never had an issue and never changed? Really the most confusing aspect of the whole story I agree.

 

I know some people in this business. Many of them actually do it by choice. They make more money in an hour than many honest jobs do for the week. A lot of them have a gambling addiction though. These aren't girl's sleeping where they work though. Sounds like he stopped are a real dump.

 

Same..the money's very good in that line of work.

 

Do they speak english and have their passports so they can leave and understand American law? If so, good for them, make that money. Like I said before, no problems with adults exchanging money for sex or whatever they want. I do have a problem when its forced.

 

Many of the massage parlors are legit. The owner may or may not know if a particular person is selling themselves. Stuff like this happens even at chains like Elements or Massage Envy. An officer has up go in undercover and pretty much ask for more than a massage to discover who's doing this, and the girl could ask if he's a cop.

 

Maybe not completely or the extents of it, but when you are going to a back ally rub and tug, you have to have some idea of what you’re supporting.

This! He has the means to get to a higher class place where you at least know the women aren’t being trafficked.

If the conditions are like we’re described in the article, you have to know going in that it’s not exactly a reputable establishment. Honestly, i’m surprised a public figure like him wouldn’t avoid places like that just for the outside chance of the owners blackmailing him. Obviously not dealing with the top of society there.

 

My friends who go to these places in the cities have apps and there are websites that tell you where to go and rate the parlors. It's really not hard to figure out, if you read that article I posted it tells you they know and sometimes check them, but they don't really have the resources in most places to keep up. I am sure some people are doing it on the low with only certain customers though and aren't online. But again, I'm not worried about Cindy Lou Who making a few extra bucks. I'm worried about Kim Su who is stuck here after paying 25k to be smuggled into the country to be a bartender and ends up gang raped and giving handjobs all day. We seem to be having a disconnect on that point for some reason.

Also, the "are you a cop" thing isn't real and the cops don't have to say yes. Just for anyone out there thinking this will get them out of a tight spot. Maybe I'm wrong but @LivinLoud might be able to chime in on that point.

 

I read an article that says there are more prominent members of the community that they expect to charge.