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Constructive suspension opinions

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by ken360, Feb 24, 2019.

  1. Feb 24, 2019 at 7:32 AM
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    ken360

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    ***Looking for some opinions please***

    I have done my thorough research on this future bilstein 5160/6112 set-up and was looking to see if I should add or subtract any of the below items. I will be doing clip 5/4 and be getting 700 lb coils because I may add a slimline style front bumper down the road. Currently I’m running stock suspension and I have about 3 inches of sag in the back and about 3 inches or travel from the bumpstops. Its really floaty and any pothole will bottom the suspension out.

    -My current setup -
    2018 Toyota Tacoma TRD/OR/SB
    Cbi steel sliders
    A.R.E canopy
    Front runner roof rack (cab & topper)
    Full aluminum skids
    Steel rear diff skids

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  2. Feb 24, 2019 at 7:46 AM
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    Grossomotto

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  3. Feb 24, 2019 at 7:47 AM
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    I’m def doing bumps all around. Good call on the brake lines for sure. The information and research below is why I want to go with spc.

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  4. Feb 24, 2019 at 7:48 AM
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    I would go with JBA as the High Caster is built in and I like the fact that the Ball Joint can be switched out in the driveway. And some shops have zero clue how to align it with the adjustable Ball Joint.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-and-suspension-mega-thread-bs-thread.364484/
     
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  6. Feb 24, 2019 at 7:54 AM
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    I have one set on and a second set new in the box.

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  7. Feb 24, 2019 at 7:56 AM
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    Cbi t3, 888, HD Dakar, b110, wheelers bumps,ubolt flip, spc uca, +4" rear brake lines.
    3* shims for the leaf packs. Looks good otherwise
     
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    I hate my spcs for that reason, I'm going to go with icon Delta joint for my next tear down..
     
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  9. Feb 24, 2019 at 7:58 AM
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    Just sold a Brand New pair of those
     
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    You might want to consider a longer rear shock. The 5160s will hit their internal stop before the leafsprings are fully dropped. Not a big deal if you aren’t routinely doing it but something to be aware of.
     
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    Awesome thanks !
     
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    Yea I have heard of that maybe the straps to limit that travel I can’t remember what there called.
     
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    Diff drop and rear diff skid aren’t really needed.
     
  14. Feb 24, 2019 at 1:06 PM
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    My opinion is thank you for actually researching this and coming up with your own setup, and then asking the community for any additional advice or comments. Job well done. And looks good to me. Diff drop isn’t necessary, and it can be argued that you are on the edge of needing upper control arms. You could potentially run without them, but good to have them in case you can’t get the alignment right.
     
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    The rear requires no straps and also doesn't require extended brake lines. The shock will limit your down travel and you won't gain anymore unless you do a SUA or a shock relocation.

    Front shocks and struts also do not need straps nor extended brake lines, again your shock will limit the down travel.
     
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    Those specific shocks will limit down travel by hitting their internal stop before the leaves hit full droop and eventually fail as a result. Limit straps or shocks with more travel will prevent that from happening.
     
  17. Feb 24, 2019 at 1:18 PM
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    As with pretty much all shocks in the rear. This is no different for King, ADS, Fox, Icon, etc.

    Limit straps and such are to prevent the angle of the axles from going too far. Sure they will definitely help out but aren't needed for the most part.

    Coils and leafs are designed to hold the truck up. The only way to fit a longer shock in the rear is to do a shock relocation kit.
     
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  18. Feb 24, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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    Limit straps are to control the travel of the axle in order to prevent extension of the shock beyond its range of travel. You can keep arguing semantics if you want but my only purpose in posting in the thread was to make sure the OP understood the potential point of failure with the rear shocks he chose.
     
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    It's a fair point, are the 5160s more restrictive than stock or the others?

    I'm also not talking semantics, my point is the suspension can be built to exceed range of motion of the axles while never hitting the shock bottom, thus needing limit straps. Shocks extending to their max is pretty common and I know no trucks that run straps in the rear and only LT rigs run straps up front.
     
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    5160s have 9.84” travel
    B110 5100s 10.94”
    Fox 2.0 extended 9.6”
    Fox 2.5 extended 9.37”
    Icon 2/2.5 extended 10.9”
    King standard 8.6”

    Most rear shocks can be over extended with heavier/lifting leafpacks. For normal driving it’s not a problem obviously, just something to be aware of if you intend to fully droop the rear suspension often.
     
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