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The ultimate headlight upgrade H4 (not LED or HID)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by crashnburn80, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. Mar 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM
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    Minny Taco

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    Maybe this has been covered in here already, but does the Headlight Services harness reduce the lifespan of an H4 bulb? If it's sending more power to the light, it makes sense to me that it might.
     
  2. Mar 13, 2019 at 7:44 AM
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    Nothing is free, running at higher voltage will slightly reduce life span. By exactly how much I am not certain. And inversely running at lower voltage and lower output will extend life span.
     
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  3. Mar 13, 2019 at 7:47 AM
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    Thank you, every day I look at that harness and contemplate buying it because I have some new housings and Osram halogens I'm going to install. It was just something I was wondering.
     
  4. Mar 13, 2019 at 8:02 AM
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    Do it! I've run this upgrade for years, in two different trucks. The increased performance is worth the trade-off.
     
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  5. Mar 13, 2019 at 8:07 AM
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    I know I'm going to in the end so why put it off? :spending:
     
  6. Mar 13, 2019 at 8:09 AM
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    Which Osrams do you have? As @Norton mentioned the trade off in performance is definitely worth it IMO. Best part is it gives you higher performance regardless of which bulbs you decide to run, even stock wattage bulbs benifit.
     
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  7. Mar 13, 2019 at 8:14 AM
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    I have the Night Breaker Laser H4. Have been waiting for the Never Ending Winter of 2018 to end to install all this stuff.
     
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  8. Mar 13, 2019 at 8:26 PM
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    While they are an improvement over stock, I wasn't very impressed with the Nightbreaker Lasers in H11, I think they went overboard on the blue coating and trying to be too intricate around the filament. The GEs performed much better.

    In other news, my power supplies ship out tomorrow, which is the last piece I need to start a better standardized comparison of the H4s.
     
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  9. Mar 13, 2019 at 8:37 PM
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    Do the GE and Lasers have a similar bulb life? The GEs came around after I bought the Lasers but I'm not against trying them. It's only money! Good luck with your new tests, I enjoy reading the results
     
  10. Mar 13, 2019 at 8:48 PM
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    Looks like the Osram +150s are 200 hours, and the GE +130s are 250 hours, in H4 form.
     
  11. Mar 15, 2019 at 1:46 PM
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    Thanks again crashnburn80 for this thread. Eagerly waiting your upcoming bulb testing
    Received my order from Headlight services a few weeks back, hope to install soon now its warmer. They had had a backorder on relays recently but let me know about the delay by email and it was only a couple of days, great customer service to inform the customer. I wish the company I ordered a front skid from had the same level of customer service....
     
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  12. Mar 15, 2019 at 4:29 PM
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    I'm stoked of the upcoming testing as well, the power supplies should be in next week!

    Headlight Services builds great harnesses, TacomaWorld keeps them extremely busy. And now the 3rd Gen guys want in on a 3rd Gen edition of the Headlight Services harness which will adapt H11->H9, making it a plug and play upgrade for those trucks.
     
  13. Mar 16, 2019 at 9:31 AM
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    So I’ve been in touch with Mike
    Headlight services
    He is local to me
    I’m getting my harness this coming week
    Now to figure out the bulb situation
    I have some OEM lights I picked up on CL for 50$
    May do BLHM on them
    I did my old headlights, but they’re a bit hazed over
    Now if the weather will cooperateimage.jpg
     
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    The power supplies showed up today!

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  15. Mar 18, 2019 at 2:50 PM
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    Holy crap! What are those designed to power, the International Space Station?
     
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    Gotta See the Harness. :popcorn:
     
  17. Mar 18, 2019 at 4:58 PM
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    Lets just say these allow room for growth. :D The units I wanted were out of stock, so that mean going lower power and cheaper or higher power and more expensive. Obviously the answer to that question is clear. These will power a 50" light bar, should the need ever arise.
     
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  18. Mar 18, 2019 at 6:45 PM
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    ...when the need arises.
    No "should" about it
    ;-)

     
  19. Mar 20, 2019 at 8:33 AM
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    Just got my harness from Headlight Services. Is there a video or guide on how to install this? I've never done anything electrical in my life before.

    Thanks
     
  20. Mar 20, 2019 at 9:39 AM
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    While it may seem intimidating, it is really simple plug and play. See my highly technical engineering schematic:

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    Unplug both headlights. The harness (shown with black plugs) plugs into the OEM harness headlight plug, then the harness plugs into both headlights. Then connect the black wire to the negative battery terminal and red wire to the positive battery terminal. The passenger side OEM headlight plug remains unused. You can optionally wrap the face of the unused plug with electrical tape if you want to keep the socket clean.

    Now when you turn on your light, the OEM plug, feeds the harness, which activates the relay, which then draws power directly from your battery to the headlights boosting voltage for higher output.
     

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