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Great White Taco build

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by fatfurious2, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. Mar 14, 2019 at 4:39 AM
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    I run maybe 1/2” of preload and my 700# springs feel nice, and I don’t have a winch. I have to apply 2” of preload to my 600# springs to get any kind of lift on the front end and then the ride is harsh.
     
  2. Mar 14, 2019 at 4:42 AM
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    @Arcticelf is helping with this stuff
     
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  3. Mar 14, 2019 at 5:13 AM
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    Going to Philly on the 31st weekend. So plans just opened. I am not sure about camping, but @bajafresh wanted to go look for some trails
     
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  4. Mar 14, 2019 at 5:52 AM
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    This is harsh for me

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  5. Mar 14, 2019 at 6:29 AM
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    Take out all the preload. I think I saw @ilubtimmyhos had no preload on his and it was soo bouncy had me :jellydance: I'm assuming he is on 600# since no front diff:anonymous:
     
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  6. Mar 14, 2019 at 6:38 AM
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    But will i lose my height?

    This was with them adjusted from factory, and not me adding preload..

    https://youtu.be/Q3HmYKHREsM

    Also, my bumper is ~110, winch is ~ 50-60, and skids are 3/16" with no reinforcement RCI.
     
  7. Mar 14, 2019 at 6:41 AM
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    Wouldn't you loose height with a 650 # spring unless you added more preload and made them stiffer?
     
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  8. Mar 14, 2019 at 6:48 AM
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    Both springs are 14". Just different rates?
     
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  9. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:02 AM
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    I'm no expert on springs but I'm think a 650# is going to lower the truck if you set it with the same preload as a 700# if both are 14 inches. I'm tired all this math is hurting my head:rofl::confused:

    Night shift blows
     
  10. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:13 AM
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    I would back that preload out and see if it improves before swapping out coils. I think lots of preload makes the little bumps and quick jolts unpleasant. You aren’t running a lot of preload but it wouldn’t hurt to try
     
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  11. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:15 AM
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    You're correct that different spring rates will require different preload settings for the same ride height, but incorrect in how that affects ride quality.

    Pre-load and spring length have no effect on ride quality until they become limiting factors (that is your shock can travel rather than the spring, or the spring is compressed to the point of contact between the coil). The spring rate, on the other hand, affects ride quality regardless of the preload applied (except for the previously mentioned edge cases).
     
  12. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:17 AM
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    I have very minimal preload. Maybe 2 rotations on the passenger side, and extra 2 or so on the drivers to compensate for weight. And yea, im running the stock 600# coils and seam to be fine. I am missing a few parts as you know.....
     
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  13. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:18 AM
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    And if the front end is bouncy we can fix that with valving.
     
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  14. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:21 AM
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    When we go run FlagPole we can see what you think. I love how it rides but if it can be better, im down. Not so much knowledge on the tuning of Kings
     
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    You make up for the parts you are missing with the few screws you have loose:der::rofl::cheers:
     
  16. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM
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    I meant bouncy in a good way like he was using every inch of those kings. Very impressive how they handled the jumps!
     
  17. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM
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    Ill try it.
     
  18. Mar 14, 2019 at 7:31 AM
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    I've only played in the shallow end of the shock valving pool, but after the changes I got with my rears it's definitely work diving into more.
     
  19. Mar 14, 2019 at 4:00 PM
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    I want to mess with my pressure up front, maybe drop it to 120 psi. My 700 coils are also a hair stiff for my liking and I have similar preload to David. Maybe add a flutter stack so the little bumps are super soft. I wanna do something up front. The ass end is a freaking cloud with the hammer hangers and a .008 (.08?) compression stack.
     
  20. Mar 15, 2019 at 3:13 AM
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    Hopefully that's a .008 rebound, and .018 compression. That's what I'm running, with a flutter shim, on the back. I need to take my fronts apart and put in flutter shims.

    Shock PSI lets us fine-tune spring rate, so it's worth playing with in small increments, and you can definitely feel it when the spring rate is 'right'.
     
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