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ADS Off-Road Racing Shocks - Information, Pictures, & BS Thread

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by TaylorU, Aug 23, 2014.

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  1. Mar 13, 2019 at 9:04 AM
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    Nitori

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    I thought they were progressive springs that end at 700, but are much lower during initial travel?

    I am seeing my 600lb springs settle to lower than TRD but higher than SR coils, but the fact that my front axle is much lighter plus I was using a .25” spacer on both sides throws pretty much any good mathematical extrapolation out the window.
     
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  2. Mar 13, 2019 at 12:49 PM
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    No, no. A 700lb coil spring rating means it takes 700lbs to compress the spring one inch. After one inch, it takes more. I forget the multiplier.
     
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  3. Mar 13, 2019 at 12:54 PM
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    If you have 650 coils with that kind of weight, I'd set it to a maximum of 2.5" of preload on the spring to get the ride height you want. If you need more, your spring could be too light.

    That being said, I'm on 700lb coils with 2" of preload on the driver side with 160lb bumper and ifs skids.
     
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  4. Mar 13, 2019 at 1:02 PM
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    Not sure. I know ADS is progressive compression and digressive rebound though. The only shock company I’ve heard of that does this out of the box
     
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  5. Mar 13, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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    I’m talking about progressively wound springs that change rate through their travel. On a linear rate spring there is no multiplier, a 700 in/lb spring will deflect 2 inches under 1400 lbs and 3 inches under 2100 lbs and so on.

    A progressive spring has tighter or looser coils throughout its travel and alters the overall spring rate depending on force applied.

    An exaggerated example:

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    That’s shocks, not springs.
     
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  6. Mar 13, 2019 at 1:35 PM
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    I was talking about shocks (I know).

    I’m pretty sure ADS’s Eibach springs are linear because when I look at them there is equal spacing between coils

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  7. Mar 14, 2019 at 4:18 PM
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    Looking at buying this suspension. How is everyone liking it so far? Looks like you can only get max 2.5” of lift(if you bumper and stuff). Is that about right?

    700 spring, without adjustable compression but going with extended travel
     
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  8. Mar 14, 2019 at 5:49 PM
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    Why would you want more lift? More than 2” and CV angles start to really suffer. This is at 1.75” front. 700# springs ext travel 265/70/17 tires. Rides great after springs break in.


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  9. Mar 14, 2019 at 5:52 PM
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    Just gotta ask!

    That’s great that it rides really good on the extended travel.
     
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  10. Mar 16, 2019 at 11:08 PM
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    I have #700 on the ADS shocks and glad I got them as I added bumper, winch and skids, sliders so the weight to spring ratio is probably good, but I don't think I made it 300 pounds heavier, but love the ride. Wish I did this sooner.
     
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    I am glad I went with #700 lb coils, same setup
     
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  12. Mar 17, 2019 at 5:02 AM
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    Which shock tower relocations did you end up going with?
     
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  13. Mar 17, 2019 at 5:09 AM
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    Those are archive garage shock towers
     
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    With bumper skids and sliders you definitely hit 300lbs. I run a lo-pro half bumper with winch and skids and it’s 300# almost exactly
     
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  15. Mar 17, 2019 at 9:46 AM
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    I figured anything aft of the front wheels was not a lever directly on the front springs. I had to crank them up a bit after the winch and bumper though. Just glad I went with the 700s. Love the shocks though
     
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    This is true, sliders affect the weight on all shocks
     
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  17. Mar 17, 2019 at 12:05 PM
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    So much for an easy day of adjusting my front coil overs
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    Anyone know the fastest place to get a pair of these? My kings have bit the dust finally and I have a trip this coming weekend for a week...So need them by like Thursday at the latest.
     
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  19. Mar 17, 2019 at 12:28 PM
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    Probably best course would be just start calling places to see who has some in stock. Headstrong offroad, downsouth motorsports, @4Running Daily, @MCM
     
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