1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Tacoma Sales in Canada going Soft

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Mexmeno, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. Mar 26, 2019 at 2:18 PM
    #61
    Stocklocker

    Stocklocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Member:
    #219125
    Messages:
    12,738
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    17TRDORDCSBAT
    Got any links to a good deal? I’ve been looking for a rust-free Horizon.

    BB9DCF8B-C144-4B34-B54D-BD2BE586EC9A.jpg
     
    JCOOR and GillyLink like this.
  2. Mar 26, 2019 at 2:25 PM
    #62
    JC15Taco

    JC15Taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2018
    Member:
    #261356
    Messages:
    703
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    SK, Canada
    Vehicle:
    '15 TRD DCLB
    Lol...didn't think anyone would want one!
    Short answer is, no...but I see them around.
    Cheers, Jeff
     
  3. Mar 26, 2019 at 2:34 PM
    #63
    Gritto

    Gritto Mrs Gritto's First Husband

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2018
    Member:
    #277415
    Messages:
    5,493
    Gender:
    Male
    Nowhere Else, Pottsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2006 AC AT V6 PreRunner
    Stock. SR5 Package #2.
    There are some nonsensical limits to economic integration.

    I wish you guys could get that pipeline built from Alberta to the west coast of BC.
    Alberta's WCS (West Canadian Select) heavy oil is trading at a heavy discount.
    And my shares in Cardinal Energy took a dump late last year.
    That's how you become a long term investor. Waiting for the stock to recover. :mad:

    I know, if Keystone XL (Phase IV) were built it wouldn't be a problem.
    Texas refineries would be glad to take that heavy crude.
    But production caps and shipping oil by rail are no solutions.
     
    YMMPRO likes this.
  4. Mar 26, 2019 at 2:39 PM
    #64
    Roddy13

    Roddy13 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2018
    Member:
    #265775
    Messages:
    484
    There are virtually no 18's left. There was one blazing blue sport left in the country when I inquired and they wanted $2000 to freight it in from some small town Toyota dealership ... might have been in Juno Alaska... lol
     
  5. Mar 26, 2019 at 2:40 PM
    #65
    JC15Taco

    JC15Taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2018
    Member:
    #261356
    Messages:
    703
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    SK, Canada
    Vehicle:
    '15 TRD DCLB
    Gritto, you're preaching to the choir now...
    Couldn't agree more!
    Cheers, Jeff
     
    Gritto[QUOTED] likes this.
  6. Mar 26, 2019 at 4:13 PM
    #66
    mgmdclb

    mgmdclb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2019
    Member:
    #280479
    Messages:
    1,295
    Gender:
    Male
    The Maritimes, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2018 MGM DCLB Sport
    They keep replacing them on 10+ yr old trucks for free though, would that not give customers some comfort knowing they’ll be looked after. The big 3 would laugh and point at your 10 year old rusty frame.
     
    Gritto likes this.
  7. Mar 26, 2019 at 5:38 PM
    #67
    Ziggyman

    Ziggyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2018
    Member:
    #273155
    Messages:
    149
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 TRD OR DBL 4x4
    I don't think that's a Plymouth horizon I think that is the Dodge variant however that might be how they do it in Canada...
     
    Stocklocker likes this.
  8. Mar 26, 2019 at 5:49 PM
    #68
    crappie man

    crappie man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2015
    Member:
    #167579
    Messages:
    2,021
    well I am still in wait for the power seats and 20 model. Wish it would hurry and get here !
     
  9. Mar 26, 2019 at 5:50 PM
    #69
    Ziggyman

    Ziggyman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2018
    Member:
    #273155
    Messages:
    149
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 TRD OR DBL 4x4
    Dodge Omni
     
  10. Mar 26, 2019 at 5:53 PM
    #70
    Stocklocker

    Stocklocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Member:
    #219125
    Messages:
    12,738
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    17TRDORDCSBAT
    That is a keen eye my friend!!! Full points for spotting the subtle differences between a Dodge Omni and a Plymouth Horizon. These cars represent the exact moment when the North American domestic auto industry was at its peak in both style and function.

    Dodge Omni:

    CC2204DA-C7E0-4F22-A081-CA71BA8EF63E.jpg

    Plymouth horizon:

    875BDE63-0785-4E7A-B768-6225D35C6D1C.jpg
     
  11. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:04 PM
    #71
    shakerhood

    shakerhood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Member:
    #161370
    Messages:
    37,057
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM DCSB Off Road, 6 Speed MT, P&T
    The GLH version was honestly not too hateful
     
  12. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:06 PM
    #72
    Stocklocker

    Stocklocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Member:
    #219125
    Messages:
    12,738
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    17TRDORDCSBAT
    Waaaat! Godammit.....I never knew. Shelby put his name on it! Pulling away from a Ferrari 308 too!

    E188729A-2EF1-4E7F-B8BE-BBB93B3ACC7F.jpg

    5CF28103-1295-46A2-A4AC-EF6C37F82073.jpg
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2019
  13. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:07 PM
    #73
    FFBlack

    FFBlack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2016
    Member:
    #188730
    Messages:
    1,212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD OFF ROAD
    I base any loan I take out based on this. Rates are terrible everywhere right now .
     
    YMMPRO[QUOTED] and GillyLink like this.
  14. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:15 PM
    #74
    Sterdog

    Sterdog Offline

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Member:
    #113290
    Messages:
    18,435
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    I am Groot
    People's Democratic Republic of Canuckistan
    Vehicle:
    15 FoST
    I have a buddy that owns a couple of dealerships in Southern Alberta. In short all sales locally are way down and he’s doing better than the guys up North. Fleet sales are still okay, I mean big companies are setup to renew their fleets are regular intervals and don’t change that unless they have to, but the contract workers and small business owners who make up the bulk of Alberta truck sales aren’t buying. Even worse, the down oil prices are killing sales in the service industry which is where a lot of CUV and small truck sales come from. My wife and I bought a Ford Edge a few months ago for almost 5 digits off MSRP. That’s unheard of and the economy is to blame for it.
     
    YMMPRO and GillyLink like this.
  15. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:16 PM
    #75
    Trouble_The_Tacoma

    Trouble_The_Tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2016
    Member:
    #205749
    Messages:
    2,270
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Conrad
    It’s all the third gen drivers complaining on this forum.
     
    JCOOR likes this.
  16. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:16 PM
    #76
    DavesTaco68

    DavesTaco68 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Member:
    #200391
    Messages:
    3,348
    North Thompson, BC
    Vehicle:
    2013 Tacoma TRD
    - ICON UCAs, BP51/Kings, SCS wheels, 285s, Leer 100XR canopy. Greenlane aluminum winch bumper, Smittybilt X20 winch. Trying Falken AT3w now, Really like BF KO2s.
    In Dec/2018 the USA exported more oil than it imports, that market for us might be slowing down.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ports-more-oil-than-it-ships-in-idUSKBN1O51X7
     
    shakerhood likes this.
  17. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:17 PM
    #77
    Sterdog

    Sterdog Offline

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Member:
    #113290
    Messages:
    18,435
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    I am Groot
    People's Democratic Republic of Canuckistan
    Vehicle:
    15 FoST
    It was a joke when Toyota was still charging 4.9% for a loan over 60 months on a Tacoma and people were buying them like hot cakes. The Tacoma is easily a $45K truck, if not more, now a finance charges on a loan at 4.9% are gut wrenching.
     
    FFBlack[QUOTED] and YMMPRO like this.
  18. Mar 26, 2019 at 6:18 PM
    #78
    RocTaco

    RocTaco Free stun!

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2016
    Member:
    #202199
    Messages:
    2,054
    First Name:
    Pete
    Green Mtns
    Vehicle:
    21' SR5 Trail AG
    At first I thought you were crazy but sure enough 40k financed for 84 months at 5% is $7,500 in interest over the life of the loan. I feel bad for the people that sign for silliness like that.
     
    YMMPRO[QUOTED], JCOOR and shakerhood like this.
  19. Mar 27, 2019 at 3:36 AM
    #79
    Gritto

    Gritto Mrs Gritto's First Husband

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2018
    Member:
    #277415
    Messages:
    5,493
    Gender:
    Male
    Nowhere Else, Pottsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2006 AC AT V6 PreRunner
    Stock. SR5 Package #2.
    Yes, mostly WTI (West Texas Intermediate). Light, sweet (low sulfur).
    There's plenty of that, and it trades at a discount to North Sea Brent, the global benchmark.

    Heavier grades, like WCS, are gonna be in shorter supply.
    Venezuelan and Iranian exports are down, and those are heavy crudes.
    So is most of the crude in the voluntary OPEC+ cutbacks.

    The thing is, what refineries can produce is pretty much predetermined by the grade of feedstock.
    WTI will give something like 47 percent gasoline and 30 some percent middle distillates like diesel.
    Heavy crudes are variable, but skew more towards middle distillates like diesel and marine gasoil, then lubricants.

    The new IMO (International Maritime Org) fuel standards come into effect in 2020.
    The standards mandate a reduction in sulfur content from 3.5% to 0.5%.
    Marine gasoil is obtained from refinery residues and/or blended with middle distillates.

    It's a big deal, shipper use a lot of fuel in those huge container ships.
    They're gonna have to:
    A) Install expensive scrubbers.
    B) Switch to diesel. Easiest to do but more expensive than the old marine gasoil.
    or
    C) Modify their boilers to use straight sweet crude like WTI. WTI contains something like 0.26% sulfur.
    I dunno how expensive that is to do, but supposedly it can be done.

    I just wrote that from memory and didn't check the details.
    But you get the picture.

    Anyway, Canada is missing a golden opportunity.
    It seems like that heavy crude may soon be in short supply and command a premium.
    It's not pinching just yet, with worries about recession and global demand.
    But oil is a notoriously volatile commodity. At some point, it's gonna spike.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2019
  20. Apr 2, 2019 at 3:55 PM
    #80
    Mexmeno

    Mexmeno [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2018
    Member:
    #249726
    Messages:
    114
    Gender:
    Male
    Ontario Canada
    Vehicle:
    23 TRD Off-road
    Just in. Tacoma down 19% in March for the Canadian market!!!!
     

Products Discussed in

To Top