1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Bad Injectors

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by iltdi, Mar 26, 2019.

  1. Mar 27, 2019 at 5:54 PM
    #121
    tallpilot

    tallpilot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2016
    Member:
    #178749
    Messages:
    685
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD OR 4X4 DC SB AT Silver
    Mobtown sliders, RCI skids, Bilstein 6112/5160/Dakar, DuroBumps
    I’d like to know what made the injectors rust. Bad fuel is a possibility but not the only one.

    This thread is 7 pages of people hating on or defending Costco, each with no data or at best a sample size of 1. It’s just about as pointless and idiotic as the oil change interval arguments. Get gas where you wish and change your oil when you want. Leave everybody else alone to do the same. FFS
     
  2. Mar 27, 2019 at 5:59 PM
    #122
    Dirtridercrf250

    Dirtridercrf250 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2017
    Member:
    #218232
    Messages:
    1,747
    Quality control is done for the top 3 fuel companies at the fuel terminal prior to tanker filling. Costco may have their own inground additive tank that hits the main tanks prior to fuel delivery, no real QC of the fuel being delivered.
     
  3. Mar 27, 2019 at 5:59 PM
    #123
    HacksawMark

    HacksawMark Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2018
    Member:
    #261741
    Messages:
    1,138
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    OREGON
    Vehicle:
    2018 Silver Tacoma V6 DCSB TRD OffRoad traded for 2019 Ford XLT 3.5L EcoBoost SC
    My point exactly. It's likely we'll never know what made only two injectors go bad. If it was fuel, I'd think they'd all go bad. Could be just bad injectors from the factory. It happens although rarely.
     
    tallpilot[QUOTED] likes this.
  4. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:02 PM
    #124
    Stocklocker

    Stocklocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Member:
    #219125
    Messages:
    12,667
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    17TRDORDCSBAT
    @Dirtridercrf250
     
    Dirtridercrf250 likes this.
  5. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:03 PM
    #125
    Stocklocker

    Stocklocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Member:
    #219125
    Messages:
    12,667
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    17TRDORDCSBAT
    Haha. Not at all. My point is lost. Never mind.
     
  6. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:04 PM
    #126
    HacksawMark

    HacksawMark Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2018
    Member:
    #261741
    Messages:
    1,138
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    OREGON
    Vehicle:
    2018 Silver Tacoma V6 DCSB TRD OffRoad traded for 2019 Ford XLT 3.5L EcoBoost SC
    Hmmm, based on what? QC at the terminal or Costco's own QC in addition to the QC at the terminal? In Oregon, there are five gas terminals, all located in north Portland, all right next to each other. No gas trucked in, all from a pipeline.
     
  7. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:05 PM
    #127
    Dirtridercrf250

    Dirtridercrf250 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2017
    Member:
    #218232
    Messages:
    1,747
    Thanks for that. Skimmed the thread. Maybe the fuel jockey held the additive button too long... who knows.
     
  8. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:08 PM
    #128
    Dirtridercrf250

    Dirtridercrf250 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2017
    Member:
    #218232
    Messages:
    1,747
    No pipe line here, ours is hauled in via tanker ships. Additives done by the big companies on site.
     
    Stocklocker likes this.
  9. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:25 PM
    #129
    Stocklocker

    Stocklocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Member:
    #219125
    Messages:
    12,667
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    17TRDORDCSBAT
    Or didn’t hold it long enough. Who knows? I was just offering another perspective to the idea “Costco is controlling additive quality because they love me”, when the reality is possibly “Costco is buying cheap gas with no additives on the open market and adding the mix in-house to keep costs down and profits up”.

    In my opinion, the Costco blending model is open to more uncertainty than bulk “Top Tier” fuel blended at a major depot or refinery. It also creates a scenario where the cheap base gasoline they are buying could be coming from anywhere.

    550C5258-561F-45FE-A9CA-D9E85FA6EE79.jpg
     
  10. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:33 PM
    #130
    MrBrooks

    MrBrooks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2017
    Member:
    #232988
    Messages:
    1,224
    Midwest
    Vehicle:
    2018 DCSB - 2021 Rav4
    $2000 to replace injectors??? :thumbsup:

    They are super easy to replace & the injectors aren't that expensive.
     
  11. Mar 27, 2019 at 6:54 PM
    #131
    Bryanccfshr

    Bryanccfshr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2018
    Member:
    #250826
    Messages:
    304
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Trd OR , 2018 TRD Pro 4Runner
    I have worked in refineries before I went upstream. In a truck rack at a Valero or Citgo refineries in Corpus Christi for example you would have trucks that were hauling for shell, chevron, Citgo, Valero, no name brands , sams club. It didn’t matter. The additives are added while loading the truck but this requires staging the additives at the truck rack. In Costco’s additive is added at the station while the truck unloads. The reason is simple economic leverage on the commodity market of gasoline. All the gas meets the same standards at the truck rack. So Costco buyers can find the best market price and pass that savings to their customers. The flexibility to buy from any terminal and the high volume keeps the pressure for lower prices. It’s a good model and I wouldn’t be surprised to see others co wider it.
    For those worried about bad gas I avoid low volume stations, and really old stations. Some metal tanks are still in service and these corrode, have water intrusi9n over time, can lose integrity below ground allowing dirt and water to enter the fuel.
    If there is a high flow of customers, and the facility is newer than 20 years old then you should feel confident that the gas is good. A bad batch of gasoline at the truck rack would impact more than one station, it would impact the entire region regardless of brand.
     
  12. Mar 27, 2019 at 7:00 PM
    #132
    Madtown

    Madtown Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2018
    Member:
    #241165
    Messages:
    653
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Madison,WI
    Vehicle:
    Former 3G Tacoma owner
    He needs direct injectors not multi port injectors. Big difference.
     
    iltdi[OP] likes this.
  13. Mar 27, 2019 at 7:14 PM
    #133
    fiftyxp

    fiftyxp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2019
    Member:
    #279284
    Messages:
    2,682
    Vehicle:
    2017 trd offroad 4x4
    I dont know enough about the gas industry to comment. But even if what you say is true this guy still has 2 injectors corroded, and the only thing I know that corrodes anything is water. So where'd it come from?
     
  14. Mar 27, 2019 at 7:50 PM
    #134
    Bryanccfshr

    Bryanccfshr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2018
    Member:
    #250826
    Messages:
    304
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Trd OR , 2018 TRD Pro 4Runner
    With the information provided it is not possible to come to a conclusion , I could run through a cause map and show possible causes. The OP mentioned a local chain as well as Costco, so we cannot even establish a regular fueling routine. There is also the possibility of vandalism. We do not know of any reason why someone would do this, but we all know how secure our gas caps are not. We have no photos of the “corrosion” so this could be hearsay from a mechanic trying to explain an injector not working. Ethanol could also have a cause box.
     
  15. Mar 27, 2019 at 7:58 PM
    #135
    Vlady

    Vlady Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2017
    Member:
    #238986
    Messages:
    3,547
    Gender:
    Male
    Issy, WA
    Vehicle:
    2017 White SR5 DCSB V6 4x4
    ...from Leaking 3rd brake light..
    OP said he fueled 80% at some street joint and 20% at costco. Statistics will point away from Costco..
     
    xxTacocaTxx likes this.
  16. Mar 27, 2019 at 8:05 PM
    #136
    fiftyxp

    fiftyxp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2019
    Member:
    #279284
    Messages:
    2,682
    Vehicle:
    2017 trd offroad 4x4

    op claim he saw them 2nd page i think
     
  17. Mar 28, 2019 at 6:53 PM
    #137
    iltdi

    iltdi [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2015
    Member:
    #151763
    Messages:
    71
    Gender:
    Male
    Rockford, IL
    Vehicle:
    2019 SR5 2.7 I4
    I will post pics when I get the truck back
     
    fiftyxp likes this.
  18. Mar 28, 2019 at 7:00 PM
    #138
    Lawfarin

    Lawfarin Who me?

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2015
    Member:
    #167659
    Messages:
    7,788
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Beetle Juice
    NY
    Lots of chemicals can have reactions and cause corrosion. Acids can too. Probably never get to know what caused it.
     
    xxTacocaTxx likes this.
  19. Mar 28, 2019 at 7:03 PM
    #139
    fiftyxp

    fiftyxp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2019
    Member:
    #279284
    Messages:
    2,682
    Vehicle:
    2017 trd offroad 4x4
    I wish we could know. This kind of stuff is super interesting.
     
  20. Apr 15, 2019 at 5:20 PM
    #140
    iltdi

    iltdi [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2015
    Member:
    #151763
    Messages:
    71
    Gender:
    Male
    Rockford, IL
    Vehicle:
    2019 SR5 2.7 I4

    Bad injectors
     

Products Discussed in

To Top