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Any PC Builders Out There?

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Tacoma_SR5Pro, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. Mar 31, 2019 at 4:58 PM
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    What is your Memory speed?
     
  2. Mar 31, 2019 at 5:02 PM
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  3. Apr 1, 2019 at 6:13 AM
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  4. Apr 2, 2019 at 6:16 AM
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    Yeah sucks...
     
  5. Apr 2, 2019 at 11:22 AM
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    I believe Asrock was founded by someone from Asus years ago.
     
  6. Apr 2, 2019 at 12:02 PM
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    Might just need to get a different mobo. Lots of tech channels said this was a good board, guess not, or maybe just a bad unit. Or maybe it's the ssd. Il post a pic of speeds when I get home
     
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    AsRock was supposed to be a division of Asus that would be uninfluenced by Asus management. Basically Asus realized they were focusing their efforts on specific markets and leaving behind some gamers so a second independent product line made sense. Eventually after a couple of years they decided it wasn't such a great idea, spun off AsRock, and IMHO AsRock is now better than Asus in a lot of important ways I won't get into. I highly recommend most of their newer products.

    I agree, a BIOS update is a good start. My boot times off a Samsung 970 EVO is under 15 seconds including POST.
     
  8. Apr 8, 2019 at 9:15 AM
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    Yeah.
    OK gurus. Building an AMD system with my daughter, using an ASUS ROG STRIX B450-I Gaming board, Ryzen 5 2400G with stock Wraith Stealth cooler.

    Plugging the CPU fan into the CPU_FAN header doesn't seem to work. It's supposedly a 4-pin PWM fan (Wraith Stealth that comes with the CPU) and you can see it jiggle a little when power is turned on, but it doesn't spin up. The system does not see the fan and forces you to go into the BIOS unless you tell it to ignore that warning (like if you are running water-cooled). If I plug the CPU fan into the AIO_PUMP header, it does spin at around 2000 RPM, so it appears that the fan is fine, and if I plug another 3-wire chassis fan into the CPU_FAN header, the fan works. So, the header seems to be providing power, and the fan seems to be operating, but they just don't want to work together.

    The CPU stays at about 40C with the fan on the AIO_PUMP header, so we could run it like that, but I'd like to have it connected to the right header and monitored/controlled properly.

    Any ideas? Supposedly the MB auto-senses whether it is a PWM or DC fan, and I tried to manually set it, but for some reason it won't let me manually set it and save in the BIOS. I did update to the latest BIOS.

    BTW, setting up XMP memory profiles on an AMD board is a PITA -- apparently only Gigabyte has a board that will automatically load the XMP profile. This ASUS board can read them, but I had to write them all down and go manually set them.
     
  9. Apr 8, 2019 at 9:32 AM
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    if the ram you have isn't listed under their qvl compatibility list it doesn't auto detect xmp profiles apparently.
     
  10. Apr 8, 2019 at 9:36 AM
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    Yeah.
    What I read is that XMP is an Intel thing -- but supported by AMD. Just lazy BIOS coders everywhere except Gigabyte. The SPD settings loaded fine, and it will actually show you the XMP settings -- just no way to load them automatically. I had forgotten to change the voltage, and the system ran fine at 3000MHz even with all the XMP settings but lower voltage (SPD was 2166MHz at 1.2V, XMP was 1.35V).
     
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    mah bad, I totally skipped over the part that your amd haha.
     
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    Anybody got any motherboards or computer stuff they could donate to my 12 year old I have no clue about this stuff!!!!!
     
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    if you weren't in Oregon you could have my old rig, its nicely collecting dust haha
     
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    Basically correct. Intel has XMP and AMD has AMP. That being said AMP hasn't been relevant in years and only ever existed to support the Radeon memory lineup back when AMD made custom ram for their APU based setups. AMD now pushes compatibility with XMP and as of their last AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture (AGESA) they have about 98% compatibility with Ryzen and XMP. I know AMD has been pushing Intel to standardize the XMP profiles to make it easier for them to be used but that's not in Intels best interest so they've thrown as many curveballs at AMD as they can. I'm currently running a 3600 mhz kit from G Skill that wouldn't of worked even 12 months ago with this board.

    I have a Gigabyte board specifically because way back when the X399 platform launched they seemed to work the best with XMP ram settings. That being said on the recent AsRock and MSI builds I've put together XMP loaded profiles correctly though often there were 2-3 profiles available and half of them did nothing but post the stock base speed of the ram.
     
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    As for your CPU cooler issue @TenBeers , have you had a chance to connect a different four pin fan to the CPU fan header? If you do and it's not recognized odds are your MB header isn't working correctly and the board should be returned or RMA'd. If it is recognized contact AMD for a new cooler.
     
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    Yeah.
    Duh, thanks -- one test I haven't done yet. I've got a Zalman sitting in a box in my office, maybe it has a 4-pin. I'm sitting here thinking about getting multimeter readings, but since the 3-pin fan works on that header I am assuming power is fine and the PWM signal is the issue.
     
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    Random question but any of you guys have experience with mechanical drives that have failed?

    have a 500gb 2.5" (old thing from 2011 time frame) with no data that is actually needed (ie i dont care about anything on it). But it was the data disk for my HTPC and ran 24/7 (well the htpc did). Anyways woke up and it was making an odd clicking type sound.

    Took it out of the HTPC and hooked up to the main desktop and it still makes the clicking sound. File Explorer doesnt show it at all. Disk Manager thingy shows it...sort of. It doesnt show the size or any info about the drive. Trying to initialize the disk fails and gives an error.

    So any random ideas to try for free? Like i said I dont care about the data on the drive but figured be an interesting time to actually try to see if i can recover it.


    Now hopefully the drives in my unraid server from the same time frame dont die >.> Thankfully they see a lot less use
     
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    The click of death means game over. The click is the read head failing to line up on the platter and returning to its home over and over again. This is why SSDs are so nice, there death is almost completely predictable.
     
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    It got an SSD replacement :)

    Thats what ive been leaning towards. But at the same time reading other peoples threads on the issue some people manage to revocer stuff. Im not actually sure its the clicking associated with the head. Doesnt sound like other dead drives ive experienced with the clicking head failure (but those were 3.5" drives too)
     
  20. Apr 11, 2019 at 9:14 AM
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    Yeah.
    Sounds like a fun project to try since you don't care about the data. I'd look up some YouTube videos, but it likely will require either some special tools or an identical donor drive to swap the platters into. But then getting the head aligned with the right gap might be tricky.

    I was in Taiwan years ago outside a factory that made the platters and found a couple of whole stacks of them taped together outside in grass by the sidewalk. I always intended to make a wind chime out of them, never did.
     

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