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K&N Blackhawk CAI Install Problem

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Tommyb08, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. Apr 8, 2019 at 12:42 PM
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    Hey guys I can use some help with this. So I was installing the Blackhawk K&N CAI for my 17’ 3.5L. Took everything apart and was trying to install these 3 screws with rubber in them into the engine bay frame. Each one I barely got to bite but these just bit to get started and wouldn’t screw in further. Since they all have rubber around them I can get them in further. Any ideas? Here are a few pics of what I’m talking about. I did notice the frame where they screw in to had a little rust but not sure how to continue. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

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  2. Apr 9, 2019 at 9:13 AM
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    Are you limited by the rubber, or is it cross threading/wrong thread or size? Can you slide the bolt part out of the rubber to test the screw fitment? Maybe post a pic of the bolt. If rust is the issue, you can put in a little oil and grab a cheap tap and die set and run a tap through to clean out the threads (make sure to double check the tap). If the rubber is the issue, I would carefully cut 1/8 off with a razor knife. Like all things in life, make sure you are in the right hole first ;). Only other thought if the bolts are the issue is getting longer bolts the correct size/pitch and installing all the way through the new air box, then through the rubber grommit (bolt removed or buy a new rubber spacer) and into the hole.
     
  3. Apr 11, 2019 at 1:31 PM
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    Thanks for the reply. No at the time I couldn’t. I talked to the manufacture and they sent me out the three stud/screws I was having a problem with. So hopefully it was a fluke and I got wrong ones but I doubt it. Maybe with the old if they are in fact the same size I can get that rubber off and try to get them to bite more by using a wrench. I was really looking forward to this as I’ve had one in my last two vehicles and I really like them.
     
  4. Apr 11, 2019 at 1:34 PM
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    That’s odd my studs screwed right into the wheel well with no problem. Yeah maybe the thread pitch is off on the new studs.
     
  5. Apr 11, 2019 at 1:41 PM
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    Yeah it is weird, hopefully they work with these new ones. I’m going to attempt it this weekend. I compared them to the old, they look the same but who knows. They had to send me a new tube too because it was marred in one spot from something in shipping. I can only think a screw.

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  6. Apr 11, 2019 at 1:44 PM
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    Hold the original bolts next the new studs and see if the threads match each other. Now that I think about it, I did have to use pair of pliers to tighten the new studs down. Just grab the rubber and give it a few turns. If you can feel it starting to cross thread then stop
     
  7. Apr 11, 2019 at 1:57 PM
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    Ok I’ll double check. I’m going to try to do the install again Saturday. It’s weird because I remember when I installed one in my 09’ it wasn’t an issue. The guy on the phone at K&N said possibly there was paint in the threads from when the truck was manufactured. I did not see that.

    I did order on Amazon, being the one tube had scratches I wonder if they had a return from someone that failed the install? And slightly offset the threads? And amazon repackaged? I’m probably over thinking this lol.

    Hopefully it’s not the actual locations where the studs/screws go into. I guess I’ll see Saturday. I will have to try the pliers with a bit more force this time. I did try that but was worried I would damage the screw and rubber.
     
  8. Apr 11, 2019 at 4:31 PM
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    Yeah your just probably overthinking that first part hahaha, but yeah I mean it’s just a rubber bushing for the shied it won’t really matter if you clamp down on it a bit.
     
  9. Apr 13, 2019 at 2:30 PM
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    Well I got it in. The new studs/screws were the same, difficult to get in. But I soaked the holes in wd40 and was able to get the two almost screwed to the bottom. The last I had a bolt that was same size as other stud/screw and cranked that down. Then i screwed the stud by hand as far as I could then used a pair of channel locks to get it down as far as I could. Probably a quarter of an inch or less from the bottom but it was snug. So after that all was completed super easy! I love it and it turned out great. Man what a pain in the butt for such and easy install! Here’s the pics! Thanks guys!

    I know that engine bay is filthy, one day I’ll get to cleaning it!


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