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Camping and Backpacking GEAR thread

Discussion in 'Outdoors' started by T4RFTMFW, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. Apr 10, 2019 at 12:06 AM
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    OnePuttBlunder

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    I'm still on my canister I started azt with. Granted my trip was cut short by surgery but with subsequent camping trips I'm approaching 20 boils which is pretty good and one canister would last longer than pretty much any backpack I could do since I only boil for dinner.
     
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  2. Apr 10, 2019 at 9:44 AM
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    Im using that Amazon special BRS3000 stove. its under an ounce and has been working great so far for over 40+ boils.
     
  3. Apr 10, 2019 at 10:52 AM
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    Is the jetboil and those mountainhouse style foods the preferred long trip (week or so)? More applying to moto camping where i wouldmt want to stop at a fast food restaurant every meal but want to keep things slim on the bike
     
  4. Apr 10, 2019 at 11:16 AM
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    I found that alcohol is the lightweight choice for short trips. When the weight of the needed alcohol, no of days, becomes heavier than the other fuel choice depends on the setup. Years ago, I had a setup that the deciding no of days was 5. Those 2 setups are long gone.
    The other factor is .. the stove weight is there even after all of the fuel is consumed.
    Base weight, I thought was without Food, Fuel, and Water.

    AND:
    Too bad idiots with stoves have set the stage that normal folks cannot use an alcohol stove.
     
  5. Apr 11, 2019 at 8:30 AM
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    Seabass

    Seabass Give it to me. I'll break it for you

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    Just a bunch of old crap
    Lots of folks that pack light and slim use freeze dried foods or instant foods that only require boiling some water and adding it to the food and letting it soak for a few minutes and then eat it right out of the bag. I repackage my meals into ziploc freezer quart bags because they're much lighter, pliable, and take up much less packaging space. Lots of brands out there, and I even make some of my own meals in my dehydrator.
     
  6. Apr 11, 2019 at 8:34 AM
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    Seabass Give it to me. I'll break it for you

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    Just a bunch of old crap
    strong words. Not idiots, just don't prefer to do things your way. It's personal preference after much experimentation, not ignorance. Some don't want the hassle of alcohol while others swear by it and are convinced it's the easier or better way. Whatever works for you, works for you. Not everyone else. Share your experiences with the benefits besides just weight savings and give a proper debate or you lose credibility.

    Base weight is the gear on your back minus actual food, water and sometimes fuel. I count my fuel in my base weight even though it's a consumable because it's still part of the starting weight of my kit and I want to account for it when I first put my pack on.
     
  7. Apr 11, 2019 at 3:03 PM
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    @Seabass You've piqued my interest. Except on the least stringent data I've never done the calculations fuel weight and consumption for my alcohol stove system. Since it's snowing and blowing with temps in the mid 20's I dug out my cook kit to get some weights and measures (digital kitchen scale set to ounces or grams). Fuel bottle (plastic w/flip-up nozzle) weighs in at 1 oz empty & 7.6 oz filled with 8 fl oz (6.6 oz) of denatured alcohol. Trail Designs recommends to use 15 - 20 ml of fuel. Measured 1 Tablespoon which is 15 ml (stamped on the handle) which gave me 10 g of fuel. Actually did 10x to give a little better accuracy. My conversion table (on my phone) changed the 8 fl oz into 237 ml or 15/16 charges in the stove burner.

    Boiling time indoors with 48 degree tap water (well water only slightly warmer in summer), house temp in kitchen about 62 degrees. Measured 2 C for each boil (3). Between boils every thing was cooled to rm ambient; 1st 4.5 min, 2nd 5.2 min, 3rd 4.9 min, called it quits at that.

    My experience at altitude 10,500 ft 10,800 ft was no different than in my kitchen, except for the wind. No I was not timing the burns but measured the volume of fuel being burned.

    Trail Design has maximized efficiency through their design of the burner itself and the cone wind screen and pot support (the pot is inserted into the cone giving more surface area to absorb and transfer heat to the water in the pot). The pot is also situated so that the bottom of the pot is located a specific distance from the burner.

    No, I'm not an employee, nor an ambassador, just a satisfied customer.

    Unfortunately, because of forest fires and widespread smoke conflicting with respiratory issues, I've not been able to get out backpacking or even just out, the last couple of years. But I did buy a canister stove setup for the chance I could get out - didn't happen. Hoping for better this year.
     
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  8. Apr 11, 2019 at 5:06 PM
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    Top Ramen and Betty Crocker instant mash are my meals. Have been for years. lol
     
  9. Apr 11, 2019 at 6:07 PM
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    My reference was about people starting fires which led to regulations.
    I had no intention of having strong words, you misunderstood me.
    I do not wish to get into a pissing match, I have an old prostate.
     
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  10. Apr 18, 2019 at 8:25 PM
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    My search for a new tent that combined lightweight with short pole sections is over. I found out that Big Agnes makes versions of their tents for bikepacking which will work perfectly for me. Ordered a Fly Creek HV UL2 for use as a spacious solo tent. A bit over 2lbs packed so carrying it on my back will be easy and 12” pole sections so fitting it on my motorcycle will also be easy.
     
  11. Apr 19, 2019 at 11:06 AM
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    I just received my 2018 revised version of the Osprey Atmos AG 65 a couple days ago. Some subtle changes to the design. The most important one is that the frame creek has been eliminated!

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  12. Apr 19, 2019 at 1:25 PM
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    What is that?
     
  13. Apr 19, 2019 at 1:34 PM
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    Some Osprey packs have a squeaky frame that gets rather annoying when plugging along on a trail. My Manta had it too one of the reasons I switched to Gregory packs.
     
  14. Apr 19, 2019 at 1:48 PM
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    Ah, I get it now. :)
     
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    My old Exos 58 does it pretty bad.
     
  17. Apr 19, 2019 at 7:20 PM
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    Yeah, I got that. Forums and texting are not that different. Spelling matters. :)
     
  18. Apr 20, 2019 at 2:28 PM
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    Ah, I was just kidding anyway. Autocorrect is a pain.
     
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  19. Apr 20, 2019 at 2:48 PM
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    The new tent was delivered today. $250 to my door and it looks like it will work perfect. I'll probably buy the footprint for it, the floor is pretty thin.

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    It fits easily in the case on my KLR.

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    I okay, I know a lot of you shoot video of your outings, and while I might assume That you use the smartphone of your choice, what other devices are you using? I’m particularly interested in active hiking videos. Are you holding the camera in your hand, or is it attached? Inquiring minds want to know.
     

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