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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Apr 24, 2019 at 5:41 AM
    Sacrifice

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    Is it possible the coilover/bypass tabs arent symetrical on the arm? Therefore the arms are on the wrong sides like you think?
     
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  2. Apr 24, 2019 at 6:41 AM
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    @SoCalTacoTruck I think these guys may be onto something. Your lca’s might be on the wrong sides. Would need more pictures to verify, but see this tab on the front of yours?

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    See how @Evenflow doesn't have that on the front of his?

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    I’d make sure you have them on the correct side because something isn’t right.
     
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  3. Apr 24, 2019 at 7:36 AM
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    Are the solo arms that symmetrical to where one could confuse the orientation of the arm? I would think the fitment of the arms would be pretty hard in the opposite arrangement right?
     
  4. Apr 24, 2019 at 7:48 AM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    Never seen a set in person, and pics online don’t show the +2 kit.
     
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  5. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:01 AM
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    holy smokes guys what are you smokin’...

    1. if you reversed sides on the LCA the co tabs would be behind the axle, simple geometry.

    2. yes i do have that “ tab “ on mime look closer.

    Look I don’t mean to be a dick but a lot of shade is being thrown at Solo here and the facts are this - @SoCalTacoTruck bought a used kit with missing parts, bought his CO’s configured incorrectly, bought TRE extensions from another kit and has OE style boots stretched out crazy far. Those are the facts causing every prob he has posted about. Look at the photo I posted yesterday of how the Sdhq boots fit.
     
  6. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:09 AM
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    Aye that is a lot of swapping going on. I could see where solo could be nervous to get involved to a degree.
     
  7. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:26 AM
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    You will need to bring the adjusting collar to the very top. You will also need a spring compressor to help collapse the spring to release the tension off of the lower spring cup to expose the two piece retention thingy that is under/inside the lower spring cup. Once that is removed the lower spring cup will slide right off.

    EDIT: And get some spindle gussets before you wreck your shit!!

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  8. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:33 AM
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    It looks like the limit strap mount is in a similar spot but on the opposite side. So if the arms were reveresed, that would mean he bolted his coilovers into the limit strap tabs.

    I think youre probably right though, the boot you have is half the size and if he installed one it would probably not touch.
     
  9. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:34 AM
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    This is super true - Unfortunately I ordered the coilovers configured excatly how Bobby told me to, he just forgot to mention a few things. Then the included extensions were wrong, blah blah. However the kit was BNIB. I’m just being aggressive towards Solo lol.

    I’m going to give the new boots a try but the distance where the CV sits from the shock tab is really small. I’m going to be in San Diego in the next few weeks and would love to stop by and compare kits to see where the difference is between ours.

    Everythings in the right orientation, checked it over at least 10 times. Evenflow is right though, my current CV boot is big - however even the OEM replica boot was too large.

    Are these the boots you have? (Pictured below).

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    Aaay a fellow shock rebuilder! Dude I hate pulling springs off. Even with the full machine bolted to the ground, its sketch to me.
     
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  11. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:55 AM
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    1. He could have mounted the co into the bypass tabs

    2. I don’t see yours, but that doesn’t matter

    3. Everything else you said is true, so I’m don’t trying to help from seeing a pic over the internet.
     
  12. Apr 24, 2019 at 9:18 AM
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    Easy enough to do the 600s on there currently. 700s might be a different story. Although i think the 16s will be loose until i thread the collar down last i measured.

    Ive compressed springs and tied them with ratchet straps before to get them back on without a conpressor :anonymous: spindle guessets can come later, i dont mob hard on the way to the mall
     
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    Typically true if it were a true 8" stroke that you can take enough tension off of the cup to slide it up so you can remove that two piece whatever it's called thingy. But the Allpro Fox Coil Over has an additional spacer that reduces the stroke length to 7-5/8" stroke. You can see that spacer in the pic that I posted.
     
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    Ah alright so even though the conpression is off the spring you have to add some to get the cup off. Guess it makes sense they reduced the stroke to make it the limit strap. Guess ill ratchet strap the springs then loosen the collar.

    Thanks for the tip:thumbsup:
     
  15. Apr 24, 2019 at 11:25 AM
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    All right to everyone asking if it could be backwards... it honestly doesn’t matter. In this pic you can clearly see how f’d the angle is to begin with on the lcas. Obviously why it’s a prototype cause 4wd shouldn’t be running on those lcas. If you have them the way @SoCalTacoTruck has oriented them, then you get rubbing on the shock tab, and if they are ran the other way, that angle and distance is too great for the cv axle even with the +2 length. Don’t mean to sound rude or angry just clearing things up cause I certainly was thinking the same thing until I saw this pic cause I run their +3.5 and it looks completely different
    Edit: on a second thought though it could fit you’d just have to see, I’m not too savvy with +2 kits either way. The BK kit seems like they orient their kit opposite of the way @SoCalTacoTruck has it so actually I might be wrong.... only time will tell.
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    Comparing these to the Dirt King LCA it looks like the uniball is closer to the front of the arm (measured from the center line of the frame mounts). Probably for better tire clearance on the firewall, and because it doesn't matter on a 2WD setup.

    The blue triangles are the same size, and the pictures have been re-seized to make the LCAs very close in apparent size. arms.jpg
     
  17. Apr 24, 2019 at 12:00 PM
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    This was just a pic of @SoCalTacoTruck after he got his kit so it’s not the official orientation but I totally see what you’re talking about. Does the triangle seem like it would fit better switched around to the other side on the solo kit?
     
  18. Apr 24, 2019 at 12:01 PM
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    No, that would put the lower spindle pivot way too far back.

    I think he should just box them up and send them to me. I'll weld on new shock mounts and make it all work.
     
  19. Apr 24, 2019 at 12:02 PM
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    Or sell them to a 2wd and buy a 4wd kit.
     
  20. Apr 24, 2019 at 12:03 PM
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    Yea that’s what I was thinking too it wouldn’t make sense for the lower uniball to be that far back. That tire would be in the firewall, and honestly that’s probably the best bet getting new tabs
     
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