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Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KnoxTac0713, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Apr 25, 2019 at 2:13 PM
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    Sixthelement

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    I run 285/75R16s, so a lil smaller than your 34s. I am running 6/5 notches currently with 700# springs. I have a lot of weight on the truck, full reinforced Mobtown skids, sliders, SSO Slimeline w/winch; going full size once it arrives shortly. Camburg ball joint UCA's. I had to do a CMC of course. Otherwise I only rub in random full lock/stuff situations. Doesn't happen often.
    Depending on how much the front softens up with the added 50lbs of weight, I may lower a notch or two.
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  2. Apr 30, 2019 at 12:42 PM
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    To those running 700 lb springs,

    which setting are you at?

    I am currently at the top (5th) notch with 600 lb springs, and am about to change to 700 lb springs.

    Can I maintain ride height if I drop to the 4th notch to decrease the spring preload?

    I am adding a Pelfreybilt bumper and Warn winch.

    (2nd Gen truck)
     
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  3. May 1, 2019 at 8:11 PM
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    I've had my 6112's on the 6/5 setting for a year and I think they ride like dog shit. Taking them down to 2/3 soon. I think this this is fully preload related. I can't compress them at 6/5. Is everyone else just swallowing their pride and enjoying the extra height?
     
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  4. May 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM
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    Sixthelement

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    I have a lot of extra weight up front. If your stock, then ya its going to be rough.
     
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  5. May 2, 2019 at 5:05 PM
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    Ride like shit on pavement or off-road to you?? Or both???

    Mine ride great....2” lift is not a lot of preload. If they don’t suit your needs then open your wallet to coilovers.
     
  6. May 2, 2019 at 5:10 PM
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    I’m probably 300 pounds over stock. Definitely both. I’ve always just had a disbelief when hearing people have 2+ inches and believe it rides great. Lift to me just makes it less likely you cycle the full length of your travel. I imagine the high priced coil overs are better at allowing this compared to the less costly options however.
     
  7. May 2, 2019 at 5:17 PM
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    Sixthelement

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    Then drop em a few notches. Try 4/3 see how it goes. The positive about the 6112s is the ability to adjust them as we like. Are you using the stock 6112 coils they came with? Because I know that mine were super soft up front even at 6/5. With the weight I have.
     
  8. May 3, 2019 at 10:21 AM
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    If you don’t have at least 200lbs on your front end, don’t get 700lb springs. I’m at 120lbs steel bumper only and at 5/4 notch and it’s pretty stiff. Should of went with 650lb spring
     
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  9. May 5, 2019 at 9:13 AM
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    I have the 700# springs. I'm at the 1/2 notches which gives about 2" lift with ARB bumper and winch. Rides great
     
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  10. May 5, 2019 at 2:41 PM
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    Forgive me if this question has been asked before, I've read through about half this thread looking for insight on this but I just don't have the time to read through all 112 pages.

    I'm currently running 6112's w/600lb coils at the 4/4 setting with a 1/4" spacer on driver side. JBA UCA's and HD Dakar w/ B1110 in the rear. Front currently sits a little lower than I'd like, I also still have slight taco lean I'd like to try and correct (due to dual batteries and a stove/drawer pullout driver side in bed)

    I'm adding an ARB bumper with Smittybilt X20 10K synthetic winch to the truck. I have a set of 700lb coils I'm going to swap in to compensate for the winch/bumper. Trying to determine what I should do with clips settings or spacers. Seems like most are staggering the clip settings instead of using a spacer. I'm thinking of going 5/4 with clip settings and removing 1/4
    spacer, or removing 1/4" spacer and using 1/2" spacer and going 4/4. Or would it be possible to run something like 4/3 clip setting, remove spacer and still get more lift/lean correction with the 700lb coils than the 600lb coils even with the extra weight?
     
  11. May 5, 2019 at 3:04 PM
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    I have a '14 and went notch 2 with the coils that came with the 6112's. I have pelfreybilt bumper/same winch as you/full set of skids and gained almost 1.5 inches. Added 1/4 inch spacer for the lean.
     
  12. May 5, 2019 at 5:10 PM
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    I haven't remeasured since everything settled, but I when I measured after the initial install I got 2" upfront on the 4th notch with 1/4" driver side spacer. But with the HD Dakars I got almost 4" of lift in the rear unloaded. Looking to gain another 1/2" in the front once I add the bumper/winch and 700lb coils to get the truck back to a more stock-ish amount of rake.
     
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  13. May 5, 2019 at 5:12 PM
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    The 6112s are.... coilovers....
     
  14. May 5, 2019 at 5:16 PM
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    Mine are set to 4th notch on both with a 1/4 spacer on driver. I used the Dakar Medium on the rear and it sits 2 inches higher than the front. I want to switch to 650 springs, but lower the notch to 2. In doing so, I’m hoping to keep the same height, but soften the ride a bit.
     
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  15. May 5, 2019 at 6:46 PM
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    If you wanna say they are that’s your opinion. What I’m saying is for the person I quoted because I wasn’t super specific was if you don’t like the 6112 move to the big brand coilovers like Kings, ADS etc. 6112 is a middle ground from cheaper lifts to expensive setups.
     
  16. May 5, 2019 at 6:54 PM
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    Yeah, upgrade to a better set up. But they are still coilovers. It’s not opinion, it’s fact. Even front 5100s are coilovers. The very definition is a coil spring surrounding a strut. Weather they be slip on or whatever. A coilover is a coilover. There’s literally no debating that.

    Not being a dick, but calling fact an opinion is like calling me a liar. :notsure:.

    But please, if anyone wants to chip in and prove me wrong, by ALL MEANS.
     
  17. May 8, 2019 at 10:24 AM
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    18 dclb 4x4 OR. 3rd gen 6112 set at 6/5 (6 driver, 5 passenger). Per instructions, Bilstein says to set the driver side 1 notch higher than passenger for taco lean. Why do ppl run a top plate spacer with these??

    The ride is fantastic on and off road with 600# spring. Slightly stiffer than stock. The truck corners and handles much better. I've run 5100s on several vehicles and these are better in all aspects.
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    Because when running the shocks on different notches, they are different preloads. Most wont notice a difference in ride, but it literally changes how each shock reacts to the road. A top spacer keeps the preload on both shocks the same. But still corrects the lean.

    I’m running a 1/4 plate spacer on the driver side and my front end is even on both sides.
     
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    I get the logic but even factory shocks and coils are different left to right. This means stock the preload is not equal.

    Bilstein has been engineering Tacoma shocks for years and are the stock shocks on multiple Yota vehicles. I'm sure through testing they found the best way to handle taco lean issue is by doing what they recommend, not a spacer.

    If I'm not mistaken the Taco is heavier on the driver side. If you have equal preload, the driver side of vehicle would dip lower when suspension is compressed. Just my opinion.
     
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    I honestly think if Bilstein was focused on making the best solution, they would have made a driver side specific shock and designed it to compensate for the lean. I really think the different notch recommendation is just their “quick fix”.

    I’m not an engineer, but I do know the front shocks are identical since they are interchangeable on either side. So the preload may not seem like much, but notice how that slight change in notch setting completely changes the feel of the ride for most drivers. It’s so noticeable there, so I’m sure having each side different would also make a noticeable change. Most drivers are so happy with the shocks themselves, they never notice it.
     
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