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The way I understand this.. [all wheel drive]

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by wawuzit, May 8, 2019.

  1. May 8, 2019 at 2:23 PM
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    squarenone

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    My understanding is that the V6 T4R is part time 4wd and that the V8 T4R was the one with full time 4wd?
     
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  2. May 8, 2019 at 2:28 PM
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    OK.

    STOP. JUST STOP.

    AWD = a 4 wheel drive system with a center differential. This allows power to be sent to all 4 wheels while allowing front and rear axles to spin at different rates when turning. Stuff works great on the street and snow and

    4WD = a 4 wheel drive system WITHOUT a center differential. This allows power to be sent to all 4 wheels but does not allow different rates of spin between front and rear axles.


    Those that state that AWD cant have a low range.... WRONG. Look at the limited awd 4runners.... they have a center diff for full time awd, then have the ability to lock the center diff for true 4x4 and ALSO have a low range.




    In the case of the tacoma, its a part time 4WD system with no center diff.... this means you dont wanna be in 4hi / 4lo in situations with high grip as this will result in binding of the driveline.
     
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  3. May 8, 2019 at 2:34 PM
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    Not trying to be a dick, but the limited awd 4runners dont have awd they have full time 4wd. There IS a difference. Thats why they have a low range. and thats why they have ability to be locked via viscous coupler. Your info is a little wrong. There are three choices.

    AWD
    Fulltime 4wd
    Part time 4wd.


    Please see my long post on the previous page that explains it pretty well.



    Source... I have owned 5 part time 4wd toyota trucks/4runners and 2 full time 4wd toyota land cruisers. I have taken the transfer cases apart on most of them.


    Your last sentence is correct though!
     
  4. May 8, 2019 at 2:34 PM
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    What hasn't been modified?
    False. I notice no difference when I’m in 2wd or all wheel drive.

    And they do make awd with a low range. I have it in my tacoma. And so does the v6 4th gen 4runner
     
  5. May 8, 2019 at 2:37 PM
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    dude you are wrong. they do not have awd with low range they are two different systems. The only thing that came close to awd with a low range was the toyota trecel in the 80s, and it did it with a super low gear granny gear.
     
  6. May 8, 2019 at 2:38 PM
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    What hasn't been modified?
    Dude ask any Colorado guy that wheels with me. I have 2wd, awd(hi and low), and 4wd(hi and low)
     
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  7. May 8, 2019 at 2:38 PM
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    Please, dont spread mis information. If you dont believe me, here is a pretty simple explanation. There are 3 different independent systems. Part time 4wd, full time 4wd, and AWD.



    [​IMG]
     
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    If we want to get technical anything with a motor that powers all 4 wheels is all wheel drive. *rolls eyes*


    Limited 4 runners have Full time 4wd aka all wheel drive, just like subarus, audi quatro etc etc. The limited 4 runners have no viscous coupler in the tcase, its a true elocker just like the rear elocking diff and it also has a low range.


    Often times why you dont find the smaller awd vehicles not having a low range is simply space of the tcase needed to be able to run a low range.


    But now we are splitting hairs. Needless to say my point was AWD / Full time 4wd systems have a center differential of some kind, which allows there to be a difference in rotational speed of the front and rear axles. The tacoma does NOT have said center diff.
     
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    Posting this again in case you didnt see it. There is a difference. dont lump stuff together. This is how people learn incorrect shit.


    Please, dont spread mis information. If you dont believe me, here is a pretty simple explanation. There are 3 different independent systems. Part time 4wd, full time 4wd, and AWD.



    [​IMG]
     
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    What hasn't been modified?
    This you are correct on. I do agree, wording can be tricky.
     
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    Everything you said is wrong.
    You can't have 2wd and AWD on the same platform. AWD does not operate in a 2wd mode and 2wd is not AWD.

    Tacoma's are part time 4wd, they are not AWD. Unless you can show me definitive proof that yours is AWD from the factory.
     
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    Do you have a selectable center differential?
     
  14. May 8, 2019 at 2:43 PM
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    What hasn't been modified?
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    Look into 4th gen 4runner v6
    They have a multi mode transfer case.
     
  15. May 8, 2019 at 2:44 PM
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    What hasn't been modified?
    See this post. I have it. I have a multi mode. Go look at my build thread then
     
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    What hasn't been modified?
    Yes.
     
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    If your transfer case has 3 options on it... 2wd/4high/4low... this means you have part time 4wd
    If your transfer case has 2 options.... High/Low... this means you have full time 4wd
    If your transfer case has no options and its just a regular drive gear selector such as P/R/N/D or a stick shift... you have AWD.
     
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    Certain trucks have been offered with AWD systems. The only ones I know of that you could consider "real" trucks would be the GMC Syclone, F150 Limited, and the GMC Sierra in certain trim levels. I cant think of a modern midsize pickup available in AWD, in the US at least.
     
  19. May 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM
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    Hes got multi mode which has a center dif
     
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    What hasn't been modified?
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    Just so you can see that I’m not bs’ing ya with some stock pics. DF860F53-7FC6-4BA3-ADBF-AC325D298847.jpg
    You can see both buttons^
     
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