Dealer says lift kit he installed CANNOT BE UNDONE!

Based off of this are we really to believe that a Honda is less reliable than a Chevy or Buick, and is also on par with a Chrysler?

 

I've got an 07 Honda as a daily with almost 200k on the clock. I've done almost nothing to it besides oil changes. Expect to get at least another 50k out of it.

 

For the record, these would be 2016 vehicles. From what I read, it is also 9-speed transmissions, body issues, and lots of electronics issues.

FWIW, I sat in a Honda Civic, which I happen to like: your knees won't allow you to open the glove compartment when you are sitting in the passenger seat. While this seems trivial, I can't imagine the Honda of 30 years ago making such a ridiculous oversight.

 

Nah. Intake/header/exhaust were standard modifications on 90s-early 00s Hondas. Never heard anyone get denied warranty because of those.

 

I am simply presenting published data. You are free to believe anything you want.

 

Fine. That was not my experience.

 

The fact of the matter is most car companies around the world including Honda AND Toyota, have started a slow downward spiral of quality. No matter how much we love them, or how amazing they were in our past years. Facts are facts, and manufacturers are looking for ways to cut costs and increase profit. And if that means lacking some quality in their production, then that’s what theyll do.

 

Ridgeline got a better score than the Tacoma. According to the data. Provided by JD power in 2017

 

Mine was hemorrhaging oil when I bought it with 110k miles.

I also have VCM that disabled three cylinders for "better MGPs" but makes the engine about as balanced as a giraffe on a beach ball requiring "active" engine mounts that tend to blow about every 100k miles and costs over $1k just for one, fuken, mount (no, that's not including labor, that's just the part. You need to buy two of them...).

VCM also causes the piston rings to rotate in the deactivated cylinders causing excessive oil burning. A class action law suite highlights all these issues for the Odyssey and Pilot.

The EX-L and Touring with the VCM also use a smaller AC compressor so as to be able to run on 3 cylinder operations which means on hot days, the AC absolutely does not work, especially in traffic. I've had the AC "serviced" 5 times within the initial purchase warranty until the mechanic gave me the straight answer: the AC compressor is too small for the square foot area of the van.

I've also had and still have multiple issues with the climate control module ($1.5k part), the parking sensors, and lets not event talk about the PAX tires Honda put on their Touring vans (another class action lawsuit, yay!).

Its in the machine shop now for a new head gasket, at 170k miles, never overheated since purchased at about 110k miles, most likely cause by the excessive vibration induced by the VCM causing the oped deck engine to "scrub" on the head gasket.

Let not also forget the 2004 - 2006 has monumental transmission problems. The 2007 and later models use the Honda Ridgeline transmission for a reason. And then there are the issues with the Honda accord 2.4L oil burning due to poorly designed piston rings...

Shall I go on or will you please tell me how you van having no issues somehow affects everyone else's experience with Honda...?

 

No.

 

Came to read about diff drop

Found Honda van discussion

Disappoint

 

That's not what the asterisk is saying. It refers to the statistically significant difference between the scores themselves. E.g., JD Power cannot guarantee that a score of 146 is statistically significantly better than 145 or 143. In other words, it cannot guarantee the exact order in which the brands are presented.

Per selling millions of units: clearly, some on here have a tough time believing hard data. Honda has an enviable reputation that is not going to disappear overnight. Those perceptions will help Honda keep selling for years to come. Now, Honda can either address these issues or ignore them. If they address them this becomes a blip on the radar; if they ignore them then they become like dozens of other automakers still in existence selling on past glories.

If you look at the latest financial results, Toyota profits were up 3%; Honda were down 25%. According to analysts, Honda is having to dial up incentives to sustain sales. There are many signs that things are not what they used to be at Honda.

 

Exactly. Who cares about Honda. I want to know what is up with the truck or at least hear from people who have that lift. It is not something I would personally ever do but was hoping to hear more about that and less about JD Power / Honda BS lol.

 

Yup. But that is 2017 data. My undestanding is that 3rd Gens had more issues when they came out, no?

And if that is still the case, then perhaps US News is correct in selecting Ridgeline as the best small truck.

 

Welcome to TW. Everyone knows you get off topic around Page 2 and by Page 3-4, anything goes. If you find yourself looking for the answer past the first page, you're gonna have a bad time.

 

Yes and no. Yes Honda remains a top contender; do Honda owners still experience the least number of problems? The data appears to be saying no.

 

Can we switch to dirt bikes now? I’ve always ridden Honda but I’ve started looking at KTMs now, which is crazy to think about given their unreliability in the early 2000s.

 

Toyota dealer DB lift...Honda piston rings.

 

Are you saying that changing wheels will void the warranty on a Honda? I used to work at a Honda dealer (just last year) I can assure you some wheels won't void any warranty. If anything, we warrantied too much shit even when it was caused do to user error. This does vary to some degree dealer to dealer.

 

Yes. There’s a lot of variability from dealer to dealer. And not just for Honda.