2020 Model TRD Pro & TRD OR

Only thing is you don't get the interior upgrades on an SR

 

True. Although I wouldn’t get a Pro just to modify it. Their resale is based on scarcity, which means used buyers want them unmolested.

An OR with Premium package would make more sense.

 

That's where I'm at. OR with all the options (mainly interior/comfort) and do my own thing.

 

If you are planning on doing a cap and drawer system, you will likely need to upgrade the rear suspension anyway -- stock leafs will likely not be sufficient. But, you could do just do a leaf pack on the Pro. The loaded Off Roads creep close to Pro territory in price, so you might save some suspension money unless you want it lifted a few inches. If you want it lifted, I'd see if you could get the interior options you want on an SR or SR5, and if not, look at the Off Road. Or, go Pro and sell the Pro suspension to recoup some of your upgrade cost. In the end, it's probably going to cost about the same.

You got any good pics? I'd love some slightly bigger tires on mine, but assumed they would rub.

 

I cross-shopped OR and Pro: I picked an OR with Premium and Tech packages. Had a sticker of $41,200; paid roughly $37,000.

Had I gone with the Pro I would have had to pay full sticker ($46,000), take the one color they had then and there, and put up with the dealer’s insufferable attitude.

I got an OR five weeks ago and already put a faux grille on, blacked out the hood, got a set of SEMA replicas 17x7 wheels, 265/70-17 General ATX tires.

Am really happy with the results. I’d do it all over again.

 

I figured I'd have to swap the leaf springs with something stiffer on the pro to handle the bed cap and drawers all the time. Costing ~$6-800. I'll price out what it would cost to buy a pro with the basics (leafs, bed cap larger tires) vs an OR with the basics (full suspension, bed cap, wheels and tires) and see where I end up. I'll use MSRP prices as well since everything other then that is up in the air.

 

Question looking into all of these aftermarket suspensions. What are everyone's thoughts on adjustable compression? Roughly a $500 difference for a full set vs non-adjustable.

 

My OPINION. Unless you are doing a lot of varied terrain off roading with variable loads and REALLY know what you are doing to tune it properly, it's probably more trouble than it is worth. You'll likely find a setting that is close to what a non-adjustable set is tuned to and leave it there. Getting properly tuned springs for the weight you are planning to carry is probably way more important, so work with a reputable outfit that asks questions about your load and what you will be using the truck for. They may be able to provide recommendations on which shocks based on your usage as well. The different manufacturers (Fox, King, Icon, ADS) have slightly different damping curves. I'm partial to Fox based on reviews of the materials they use being slightly better, and they seem to have a neutral tune.

My experience is from adjustable mountain bike suspension. I've had suspension with adjustable low speed and high speed compression, and getting it tuned is a PITA. I prefer fewer adjustments and focus on getting the right sag/spring rate. The bike manufacturers do a good job getting the right tune for the bike design, and I ride for fun.

 

Thanks for that information. I'm seeing what you mean on the spring rate being important. I prefer the set it and forget it method anyhow. Figured i'd be playing with adjustment a bit at first, finding a setting I liked and never messing it with it again. You're probably right in saying the manufacturers hit that mark or close to it from the beginning. Money saved! Thank you again.

 

PRO is way overrated for the price. Get the O.R. Nuff said!!!

 

As it sits, Pro is predominantly an appearance package with some unique off-road components.

If Toyota had chosen to spend more of the extra cost on functional upgrades and less on showy things like badges, decals, scoops, fancy paint, embroidery, etc., Pro would get a lot more respect than it does.

 

Valid opinions, but mine differs. The Fox suspension, leather interior, and good skid plate are not just appearance things, they provide a function. I was happy to pay $2K more than a loaded Off Road to get those things and a bit more. But I wouldn't pay MSRP for any vehicle and paid $3K under MSRP for mine -- if you have to pay MSRP or over, or if it has that awful snorkel, it's probably not worth it.

 

It's a desert air breather!! sheesh! j/k, it's awful.

 

I got leather in my O.R.

Pro’s skid plate didn’t have to be painted to draw attention. If one were to genuinely off-road the truck, that skid plate would look pretty for a whole 5 seconds.

The fact that Toyota chose to paint the skid plate light gray with red TRD letters is to draw attention. The same goes for the fancy paint colors, and embroidered headrests, and all that, which tells me that Toyota is more interested in drawing attention than delivering serious off-road capability.

I went through this with Jeep. Rubicon started as a low-key serious off-road package. The only identifier was a hood decal; everything else was functional: lockers, swaybar disco, crawl ratio transfer case, etc. Then as the Rubicon name started gaining status, the hood decals became more prominent, got its own unique wheels, then “Rubicon” was emblazoned everywhere, got its own hood, its own bumpers, its own grille, etc., etc. Soon enough you are paying $60,000 for one. Do I want to take a $60,000 Rubicon off-road to get scratched? Hell no!

There’s a point where this stops being about function and becomes about image. And it is easy to get carried away. In fact, automakers want us to get carried away.

So I try to remind myself how I intend to use this vehicle, and is what the package offers going to allow me to use it or is it going to hold me back. When I see O.R., I can easily justify taking it off-road. When I look at Pro, despite its functional enhancements, I see too many image pieces aimed at drawing attention that will easily get damaged, and would hold me back from truly enjoying the truck on the trail.

 

Ran into something similar with my wife. I am very adamant about the truck cap. It would be super functional for my needs/wants. My wife says it screams "old man", and I get where she's coming from. Hell, I think they look better without one too, but prefer function over form as I do get older (33 years old). Hunting trips out of state, we can get loaded down pretty quick. Especially if we are bird hunting and I bring my dog that needs space in the back. On hunts by myself I can sleep back there in a pinch as well. Just makes sense. Plus I have an older, paid off full size truck to haul anything big.

 

You can always get a softopper. Looks more “adventurous”, less “old man”

 

Get a TRD Pro so we can have magic moments when we see each other on the road. You simply dont get that with the other models

 

I've bashed my skid on a rock and it functioned like a good skid plate should and still looks fine.

If I wanted to dump another $6K+ into it for wheels/tires/suspension/armor, I certainly would have gone for an Off Road, and I would likely have slightly better capabilities, but no factory warranty on the upgrades and would likely wear out some other parts a lot faster.

My 2012 Off Road in stock form did everything I asked of it, so I didn't see the point of going crazy with upgrades. But, I didn't like the stock Bilsteins. The Pro package ticked a lot of boxes for me based on how I use the truck. I've pushed the Pro even harder, and it's done fine. IMHO, these trucks are very capable in stock form, and doing a bunch of expensive upgrades for most people is just for show, and it doesn't improve its capability significantly. Some, yes, but not significantly. I'm a form follows function person, and kind of cheap. The math worked better for me.

OP, you are doing the right thing by knowing what you want to do with the truck and exploring options and costs, you will end up with something that suits your needs.

 

I’ve discovered that old men know what they are doing. Most are all about function. Care less about what they look like. Velcro shoes are a great example. Comfy, easy to put on, cheap. Haha

 

Thanks! That one guys build I posted seems like a very capable truck and it’s on the stock suspension + a new leaf pack to handle the weight. Same boat I’d find myself in I believe if I went with the pro.