1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

05 Tacoma anti-theft help?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by alaska1wd, May 25, 2019.

  1. May 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM
    #1
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    I drive a 2.7L 2005 Tacoma. I am worried about the vehicle theft in my area, and I need to install a hidden ON/OFF switch so it can't be stolen as easily. The fuel pump relay seems like a good idea, but I haven't been able to find it. Is it a Circuit Open Relay? I need to drive my truck every day, so I'm worried about cutting wires and doing trial-and-error. If anyone can help me, I would appreciate it :)
     
  2. May 25, 2019 at 2:18 PM
    #2
    BillsSR5

    BillsSR5 Looking out for #1

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Member:
    #216032
    Messages:
    8,654
    First Name:
    bill
    Vehicle:
    2014 SR5
    disconnect the negative battery terminal
     
    whatstcp and TRDSport10 like this.
  3. May 25, 2019 at 2:19 PM
    #3
    US Marine

    US Marine Semper Fi

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2016
    Member:
    #182227
    Messages:
    14,751
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chuck
    Gallatin Tennessee
    Vehicle:
    02 Pre Runner supercharged 4cyl
    TRD supercharger , Doug Thorley header , K&N CAI 265/75-16 Toyo open country mud terrain , 15x8 Method Racing wheels , Rancho 3" lift , 4.88 gears , Detroit Locker
    Get a Viper Alarm with GPS tracking !!
     
    Skyway likes this.
  4. May 25, 2019 at 2:20 PM
    #4
    NYCTaco52

    NYCTaco52 Half man, half goat

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2019
    Member:
    #286574
    Messages:
    4,432
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Somehow known as Stewart, but named Ben
    Ft Lauderdale, FL
    Vehicle:
    2022 Subaru Ascent
    That’s a lot of work, but it works!
     
    BillsSR5[QUOTED] likes this.
  5. May 25, 2019 at 2:20 PM
    #5
    Jeffch

    Jeffch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Member:
    #69251
    Messages:
    3,245
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    Vermont
    Vehicle:
    2018 off road
    Running 285/75/16s
    Last edited: May 25, 2019
    Skyway likes this.
  6. May 25, 2019 at 2:33 PM
    #6
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    I've been doing that, but a friend had his car stolen as they jammed wire bits into it. Car turned up later (totaled) and he could see the wire they got it running with. Apparently they had been watching him come/go to work every day and saw him in the fusebox, so they knew what to do. Disconnecting the battery is easy to replace, and wears out the terminal. There is a lot of vehicle theft in this area. If I can find either the fuel pump relay or the circuit open relay, I can add a secret switch under the seat.

    I've been trying to find the fuel pump relay, but it seems like the Tacoma has something called a circuit open relay? It seems to be the same thing to me? I can't find either. Anybody know where either is? I don't want my truck to be the next one, I really like it...
     
  7. May 25, 2019 at 2:39 PM
    #7
    Ccrames2018

    Ccrames2018 Jack of some trades.

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2018
    Member:
    #246573
    Messages:
    1,481
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Caden
    Nor Cal
    Vehicle:
    06 DCLB TRD Sport
    -Bilstein+OME suspension, ARB bumper w/Smittybuilt XRC winch, Aero exhaust, CMC, oddball size 275/70R17 General Grabber ATXs on 17x8 0 offset Pro Comp wheels, etc.
    Found this on another threadScreenshot_20190525-143851.jpg
     
  8. May 25, 2019 at 2:40 PM
    #8
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
  9. May 25, 2019 at 2:41 PM
    #9
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks, I'll try the C/Open relay. My truck is a 2TR-FE engine, so apparently no fuel pump relay.
     
    Ccrames2018[QUOTED] likes this.
  10. May 25, 2019 at 2:45 PM
    #10
    Jeffch

    Jeffch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Member:
    #69251
    Messages:
    3,245
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeff
    Vermont
    Vehicle:
    2018 off road
    Running 285/75/16s
    It’s a relay pulls out like fuse kinda.
     
  11. May 25, 2019 at 3:29 PM
    #11
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    I found the relay switch thing. It's the third of these light blue boxes in the bottom right when viewed from the driver side wheel area.

    I took it out, and tested. Made a single piston fire and then it just turned over, so I'm sure it's the right one.

    So I tested with a DC multimeter. All 4 prong spots are 0 power, both when sitting and with the key turned. Confusing...

    Any ideas? I guess I can just stick wire bits to connect the relay to the socket, test what removing each of the 4 does, and see which wire I want to add the on/off to?

    Should I do that and try measuring the amps? I'm not great with electricity, but I am good at wiring.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2019
  12. May 25, 2019 at 6:08 PM
    #12
    Fullboogie

    Fullboogie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2017
    Member:
    #218539
    Messages:
    1,124
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prerunner & 2008 4Runner
    The pump relay is not going to be hot unless the truck is running. It will turn on for a second when the key is turned to "on" to prime the lines/rails, then it shuts off.

    If you're looking to use a switch, make sure you are switching the ground on whatever circuit you tap into. You do not want to run voltage, particularly someone with a lot of amperage, to a switch. Always switch the ground if possible.
     
  13. May 25, 2019 at 7:09 PM
    #13
    joes06tacoma

    joes06tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Member:
    #28588
    Messages:
    3,183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    Central Coast, CA
    Vehicle:
    06 4x4 Off Road Access Cab v6 6spd
    LEER Shell with dome lights operated with 3 way switches, aux backup lights with relay and 3 position switch, modified wiring to compass/temp display and clock to include switch that disables dimming function (poor man's DRL solution), Scan Gauge 2
    Stick shift?

    If it's an automatic I'd much rather interrupt the starter circuit.

    Mess with the fuel pump and you'd better make sure your wiring job is as good as the factory did it. Every wiring problem I've ever seen on a car has been from add-on stuff. You don't want the truck shutting off in traffic.

    With an automatic you can do starter interrupt and put a key lock on the hood.

    You could also check this out: http://www.ravelco.com/ they have a real good reputation and they'll install it for you.
     
    Skyway likes this.
  14. May 25, 2019 at 7:12 PM
    #14
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    ok, I'll google how to find the ground.

    Manual here..
     
  15. May 25, 2019 at 10:04 PM
    #15
    Muddinfun

    Muddinfun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Member:
    #216500
    Messages:
    7,489
    Skyway likes this.
  16. May 26, 2019 at 10:01 AM
    #16
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,809
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
  17. May 26, 2019 at 10:07 AM
    #17
    Skyway

    Skyway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2016
    Member:
    #190731
    Messages:
    2,947
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ande'
    St.Pete
    Vehicle:
    White 2009 regular cab
    Do you live in Alaska OP?
     
  18. May 26, 2019 at 10:53 AM
    #18
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Great stuff guys, thanks for the help! I'll look into this stuff and see what works. I'll do some research when I have time, new job starting so it might be a bit. Thanks again Tacoma bros, I plan on keeping mine for a long time, so doing this properly is a must for me. I'm surprised these kill switches aren't more popular. I'm adding mine as I stay over at my new gf's house pretty often, and the car theft in that area is very high. Sketchy neighborhood...

    Yes, I live in AK. Perfect truck for a place like this. I damaged my rear suspension by hauling branches/food to some rescued moose (yes, really!) as the road up to the old facility was terrible and I needed a running start to make it up the hill. That was one month before Toyota upgraded my suspension for free due to the recall! I totally lucked out on that one, as the recall was 10 or so years after my truck was made, and within a month of my suspension feeling strange over bumps. I'd been carefully driving around with it as it wasn't too bad, and I was pricing out a repair when the letter showed up!

    The only other issue my truck has is the fan settings - Off and high speed both work, but the middle settings rarely do anymore. A few years ago, the middle settings started to only sometimes work, and then rarely work, and now they almost never do anymore. Very strange problem, but not bad as off and hi are the important ones. If anybody has any idea, let me know.

    Don't forget to spray the leaves and junk out of the front wheel wells guys! I do it once a year at least. I'm always surprised to see how much pine needle and leaf build up is there each year. It's why the wheel wells on many Tacoma trucks are rusting away, it decays which makes it acidic, and it holds the moisture in there. Just spray the junk out with a garden hose.

    My truck was serviced by Toyota at 80K miles, and it's now at 130K with me changing the oil and air filter and greasing the fittings on the bottom. Anything important I need to check? I'm pretty new to working on cars/trucks as I've been under warranty and getting service until fairly recently. I'm great with motorcycle engines, so I do have some wrenching experience.

    Thanks again for the info. I joined as it seems like a good forum, and I'll probably have more issues as my truck ages.
     
  19. May 26, 2019 at 11:06 AM
    #19
    Skyway

    Skyway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2016
    Member:
    #190731
    Messages:
    2,947
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ande'
    St.Pete
    Vehicle:
    White 2009 regular cab
    These are both natural Toyota occurrences.
    Welcome to TW!
    I have owned 3 Toyota's prior to this truck.
    Bought the truck used, washed and polished it up, checked the wheel wells and o_O yep!
    Full of wet leaves and debris.
    Just like my previous Toyotas where the wheel wells rusted out.

    The fan speed relay ting is a plastic plug connection that burns up over frequent use.
    This too happed on my previous cars but I didn't know back then what was wrong.
    I knew I had a high speed blower and in FLA & GA that's all that matters!

    There are threads on here re: that plug burning and replacement.
     
  20. May 26, 2019 at 11:11 AM
    #20
    alaska1wd

    alaska1wd [OP] Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2019
    Member:
    #294323
    Messages:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Cool, I'll look up that plastic plug fan thing in forum search. It will be nice to have medium fan settings on long drives and such.

    My first vehicle was a 93 Tacoma, actually called a "pickup" before the Tacoma name. It came from Florida, and had the worst sunburn I've ever seen. We don't get that up here in AK! I had a lot of fun with it, and I sold it for the exact same price I paid for it. It's why I got another one.
     
    Skyway[QUOTED] likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top